Nothing wrong with the routing, are you talking about economy flights?

your routing is legit

Thanks to both.

Yes - economy flights as we only have 26k miles each to burn.

I was originally looking at doing business LHR>YVR>SEA for 18.5k miles + �110 cash, and then flying direct back YVR>LHR on the new VS service using my miles with them. However, business availability on AC855 seems very limited as far as I can see and using points for an economy return still saves over �400 on the cash fare and allows us an extra stop in YYZ. Not bad for taking out a credit card and spending �250 on it ^

Need a bit of help doing my first DC redemption! Looking at booking business class on TG from ISB to KUL, via BKK, in July next year. Am I likely to be able to find three seats? We can be flexible on dates to a certain extent.

Also, is it possible to book a stopover in BKK on the return leg? We're hoping to spend a couple of weeks there with family.

Cheers for any advice, from a complete newbie at this sort of thing...

Further to my post on the last page, I'm really struggling at the moment to find anything - wondering if I'm doing things wrong!

As I said previously we're looking to get the 2 of us from MAN to SFO but don't really care about the routing too much other than would like to go C most of the way (ie. happy to fly into Europe from MAN seperately and go C the rest). Preferably we'd like to go September/October 2012.

I've managed to find some flights in early April FRA-SFO but that's about it. Not a single seat showing for all of September/October on that route. I can also find some early April SFO-FRA flights but again that's it.

Should there be availability showing in September/October? I've tried from a number of destinations into SFO but am finding nothing for then.

If anyone's got any tips of routings etc. I should be trying instead of trying to go direct from european airports directly to SFO I'd appreciate it.

I would try AC. A quick check shows scattered availability for 2 C seats LHR-YYZ-SFO and return, e.g. out 21/9 return 27/9. There may be other dates and other routes from European airports but I didn't check those (or your connections from MAN).

If you're using ANA it won't find these by default if you just ask it to look for LHR-SFO, so you can either search sector by sector or specify your transit city (YYZ, YUL, YVR).

West coast is always tricky though so best of luck.

Thanks for that - looking at 21/9 for example it looks like maybe we'd have to have a reasonably long wait in YYZ, would that be normal?

I'm using the KVS tool which is certainly a lot easier for this kind of thing at least.

Edit: Any thoughts on European departure points to avoid the UK taxes?

hello all, I know it is a long way out but I need 2 seats to Perth, WA for next December, no specific dates required, just sometime in December.

Am I too early for release of availability?

thanks, Gordie

The norm appears to be 330 days out, ANA won't show *A availability outside this (I am checking for end Nov - mid Dec for another route but won't let me check)

Just checking revenue flights too and SQ for example is only up to the 12th Dec currently - you may want to try pot luck with the ICC (but I prefer to be armed in advance!)

TG don't often have 3 C seats on the same flight, but do frequently release more as soon as the first 2 are booked.

ANA is showing plenty of C availability, for example :
7/2 (MO) TG350 Islamabad Bangkok(BKK) 23:35 06:20 +1 333
7/3 (TU) TG415 Bangkok(BKK) Kuala Lumpur 08:45 11:55 772

7/18 (WE) TG416 Kuala Lumpur Bangkok(BKK) 13:05 14:10 772
7/18 (WE) TG349 Bangkok(BKK) Islamabad 18:50 22:25 333

have 2 C seats, and also 2 Y seats as a fallback.

A 2 week stopover in BKK is OK.

Another stupid question - I've found some C availability between LHR & YYZ on AC, but looking at the seatplans they only have First & Economy - how does that work in reality?

Exec First on AC is Biz.

That's great thank you, think I'm finally getting somewhere!

I have yet another question(!)

Trying to work out taxes now, I've been looking at that ITA Matrix, if I put in LHR-SFO it comes out at around �500 but doesn't go the routing I'm looking at (goes via Montreal). Am I better adding up for the two seperate legs (ie LHR-YYZ & YYZ - SFO)

I presume the AC YQ surcharge does apply on reward flights?

Unfortunately I think it does, I previously had a SFO-YYZ-LHR flight booked one way and it was just under �300 in taxes, managed to swap it for SFO-LAX-LHR (with NZ) and it was around �35 for taxes (earlier this year but I believe they charge the NZ YQ now)

You can force ITA to go via YYZ by inputting LHR::YYZ in the "departing from" box and SFO::YYZ in the "destination" box. You could even specify your exact flight numbers if you know them, e.g. "LHR::AC857 AC739" and "SFO::AC758 AC856".

Yes, the YQ will be painful. It's usually a bit less if you can manage to find availability from DUB (and you'd save on the APD too if you start from DUB).