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somebol Nov 17, 2010 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by baggageinhall (Post 15176086)
No. You will be charged for two awards, JNB-ZRH and ZRH to DEL.

I suspect they would however, allow JNB-IST-DEL on TK or JNB-CAI-BOM on MS as a single award.

I assume you are trying to find the most cost (miles/cash/both) efficient way of spending vast amounts of time in a C class seat and so are dreaming up ridiculous routings to achieve that end. It's this sort of behaviour that has led to the ICC cracking down on Europe-SIN/BKK-Japan awards which were eminently more sensible than some of the nonsense I have seen on here.

If on the other hand you want to do these in Y, then I wouldn't stop you. I would hope the ICC would book the award and salute your masochism.

Thanks again...

You are wrong, I am not dreaming up routes to maximize C/F time, I actually have to be in those places. I am ok to redeem them as separate awards, but was just making sure that I am not wasting miles by redeeming separate awards where a single award would suffice. And what better place to ask than FT ;)

baggageinhall Nov 18, 2010 8:31 am


Originally Posted by somebol (Post 15176252)
Thanks again...

You are wrong, I am not dreaming up routes to maximize C/F time, I actually have to be in those places. I am ok to redeem them as separate awards, but was just making sure that I am not wasting miles by redeeming separate awards where a single award would suffice. And what better place to ask than FT ;)

Fair enough, that would make you the exception rather than the rule on this thread! Another useful resource to check the potential legitimacy of a routing is the Star Alliance website. Though not definitive, it is a useful way of checking what might be a permitted routing and what probably won't be.

Gertcha Nov 20, 2010 8:18 am

Is this allowed
 
Hi All,
Long time reader, first time poster here. I have a number of BD miles to burn before they get swallowed up by LH and want to use them as part of my honeymoon next year.

So, can anyone tell me if this route is do-able please?
LHR-SIN /-BKI-ICN-LHR

It has to be an open jaw SIN/-BKI as no *A carriers, I've found a cheap flight on Jetstar.

My other option is
LHR-SIN /-BKI-x/ICN-NRT-LHR

A very slight backtrack for the NRT stop, but aeroplan seems to allow it, would the guys at the ICC allow it?

The reason I'm asking is that both ICN and NRT are in Z8 and SIN/BKI are in Z7.

Thanks for your replies!

malcolmcampbell Nov 21, 2010 1:56 am

I have only ever booked an award flight once before with BD miles and it was a very simple edinburgh - Zurich - Boston route. I am going to try something a bit more ambitious next time but thought I would run it past the experts before attempting it with the ICC. The plan is to go GLA-LHR-FRA-BKK-SGN usinf cash and miles. Flight Nexus (an excellent tool) shows availability but is it allowed and would a stopover in BKK be allowed?

I have calculated the cost in miles for cash and miles for two of us in F to be 40000 X 2.5 X2 = 200000 miles - is that right?

Sandibeck Nov 21, 2010 2:18 am

Hello again, and sorry again for aksing for a route but I am trying and trying .. to found the perfect route for less miles ;)

Do you thing it is possible to book this route as a One way Z8-Z8 Award

SHA - CTU
CTU - SYX STOP
SYX - PEK

I am asking because there are plenty direct flights from shanghai to peking
and the route is very "exotic":p

MAN Pax Nov 23, 2010 4:40 am

Valid Routing?
 
Outbound: MAN-FRA-ORD-DAY

Return: DAY-ORD-Surface-LAX-FRA-MAN

It's the surface sector that I'm not sure about.

IMH Nov 23, 2010 9:21 am


Originally Posted by MAN Pax (Post 15250567)
Outbound: MAN-FRA-ORD-DAY

Return: DAY-ORD-Surface-LAX-FRA-MAN

It's the surface sector that I'm not sure about.

I can't really imagine that return being allowed -- even without the surface sector, there's no good reason to let you route via LAX to get from ORD to MAN (adding over 2,200 miles).

What you can do, of course, is just book two one-ways MAN-xxx-ORD-DAY and LAX-xxx-MAN.

AHO Nov 23, 2010 11:06 am


Originally Posted by Sandibeck (Post 15223033)
Hello again, and sorry again for aksing for a route but I am trying and trying .. to found the perfect route for less miles ;)

Do you thing it is possible to book this route as a One way Z8-Z8 Award

SHA - CTU
CTU - SYX STOP
SYX - PEK

I am asking because there are plenty direct flights from shanghai to peking
and the route is very "exotic":p

ICC is much stingier than before regarding routings, so I guess you have hard time to get it as one-way award.

monkeymagic Nov 23, 2010 3:18 pm

Award booking HKG-LHR - is this routing possible?
 
Hi,

I'm flying from HKG to LHR in the new year and due to limited availability I've booked myself on HKG - BKK - FRA - LHR with a stop over in BKK. I really wanted to go to SIN but there was no availability. Is it possible to change my award booking now to HKG - BKK - SIN - BKK - FRA - LHR with the stopover being in SIN and not in BKK? There seems to be flights on TG to SIN from BKK but as it's not neccessarily 'on the way' I wondered whether I would be allowed to do this?

If so, would I be charged a change fee since I'm adding a leg rather than changing my existing ones.

Clearly, I could use airmiles to book just a separate flight or buy a ticket which is an option, but if I could get it covered by airmiles then it would be great :)

Thanks in advance

Jon

MAN Pax Nov 23, 2010 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 15253704)
I can't really imagine that return being allowed -- even without the surface sector, there's no good reason to let you route via LAX to get from ORD to MAN (adding over 2,200 miles).

What you can do, of course, is just book two one-ways MAN-xxx-ORD-DAY and LAX-xxx-MAN.

Yes - so concerned with trying to get my ORD-DAY-ORD included, that I forgot the whacking backtrack.

onlysuites Nov 23, 2010 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by monkeymagic (Post 15258533)
Hi,

I'm flying from HKG to LHR in the new year and due to limited availability I've booked myself on HKG - BKK - FRA - LHR with a stop over in BKK. I really wanted to go to SIN but there was no availability. Is it possible to change my award booking now to HKG - BKK - SIN - BKK - FRA - LHR with the stopover being in SIN and not in BKK? There seems to be flights on TG to SIN from BKK but as it's not neccessarily 'on the way' I wondered whether I would be allowed to do this?

If so, would I be charged a change fee since I'm adding a leg rather than changing my existing ones.

Clearly, I could use airmiles to book just a separate flight or buy a ticket which is an option, but if I could get it covered by airmiles then it would be great :)

Thanks in advance

Jon

No chance. You have to pick a direct routing so how would a BKK-SIN-BKK-FRA be considered direct. I don't think anyone has pulled that off even in the good old times.

DLmow Nov 24, 2010 12:43 am

Is it valid route FRA-ICN-TPE?

Aussie_flyer Nov 24, 2010 3:05 am


Originally Posted by DLmow (Post 15264583)
Is it valid route FRA-ICN-TPE?

Should be ok... of course there is one simple way to find out, just call and book it, thats what I always do!

flytofly Nov 24, 2010 5:25 am

Oh, yes.
In case FRA-ICN is fully booked, you can also consider FRA-BKK-TPE with TG
or FRA-SIN-TPE with SQ.
FRA-NRT-TPE with LH(a380) and NH or UA would be fine, too.


Originally Posted by DLmow (Post 15264583)
Is it valid route FRA-ICN-TPE?


AHO Nov 24, 2010 5:43 am


Originally Posted by flytofly (Post 15266057)
Oh, yes.
In case FRA-ICN is fully booked, you can also consider FRA-BKK-TPE with TG
or FRA-SIN-TPE with SQ.
FRA-NRT-TPE with LH(a380) and NH or UA would be fine, too.

or FRA-PEK-TPE (There are direct flights between PRC and ROC nowadays)


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