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soy Dec 5, 2010 2:18 pm

Do you think that BOS-LAX-NRT-BKK-SYD would be allowed?
If not how about BOS-LAX-NRT-ICN-SYD?

Tiger_lily Dec 5, 2010 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by soy (Post 15386575)
Do you think that BOS-LAX-NRT-BKK-SYD would be allowed?
If not how about BOS-LAX-NRT-ICN-SYD?

Too much of a detour IMO especially when you can get LAX-AKL-SYD, SFO-SYD, SFO-AKL-SYD etc etc

planestupid Dec 5, 2010 4:04 pm

CNS-GUM-NRT-LAX(stopover)-FRA allowed?
 
Hello guys. I'm trying to book an award flight from Cairns to Frankfurt with a stopover in Los Angeles. The only routing with availability that I get is via Guam and Tokyo. It involves four segments and is much longer and has one more segment than the "direct route" CNS-GUM-NRT-FRA. Any guesses whether I would get away with the "extended route" at the regular mileage rate? I'm tempted to give it a try. Thanks, ps

flytofly Dec 5, 2010 10:01 pm

Aside from the fact DC is now closely monitoring the route (ICN-KHV), OZ staff at CDG won't let you check in unless you have a Russian Visa.



Originally Posted by El Puerco Volante (Post 15385984)
Dear all,

Since I need to go to KHV, I'm looking to do a CDG-->ICN-->KHV as Z1-->Z2 award. Will I be allowed a stopover at ICN ?

DC site is a bit vague - it says "No stop-overs are permitted within Europe. Outside of Europe one stop-over is permitted"

ICN is outside Europe for sure, but my routing is Z1-->Z2 - do they count this as Europe and do not permit stopovers ?

Thanks & regards,

El Puerco Volante.


RAPC Dec 5, 2010 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by planestupid (Post 15387113)
Hello guys. I'm trying to book an award flight from Cairns to Frankfurt with a stopover in Los Angeles. The only routing with availability that I get is via Guam and Tokyo. It involves four segments and is much longer and has one more segment than the "direct route" CNS-GUM-NRT-FRA. Any guesses whether I would get away with the "extended route" at the regular mileage rate? I'm tempted to give it a try. Thanks, ps

You can't do it via NRT and LAX. Take out LAX and do NRT-FRA and it would be fine.

demue Dec 6, 2010 12:37 am


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 15386465)
BD are much wiser about this particular issue these days, mainly because of the bragging that's been going on, on here. Hence they have been warning people that they will be charged for a Z8 if they choose to miss the last leg.

They've been monitoring Z1-Z10 redemptions too.

People cannot say that they haven't been warned.

+1. I agree and honestly can find nothing wrong with people being charged the difference retroactively (assuming they have enough miles for it - some may not which is fully intentional and another "scheme" I have been asked about by someone planning to game the system :( ). I prefer BDs monitoring approach over yanking the possiblity just plain in general and ruining it for everyone though if things like this continue I'm afraid abuse may win ... once again.

El Puerco Volante Dec 6, 2010 2:25 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 15386306)
You mean you would like to jump ship in ICN? Best to call them and see what they say as they monitor these bookings very closely.

No, I meant exactly what I said - I'd like to have a stopover at ICN. Since I have to fly to KHV and the only way to do it on *A award is trough ICN, it would be nice to have couple of days in ICN before proceeding to KHV.

So looks like nobody know if the rules allow stopovers in this case ( but a lot of people are very fast to jump to conclusions )

Thanks & regards,

El Puerco Volante.

flytofly Dec 6, 2010 4:54 am

Stopover at ICN is not allowed since you are flying on a Z1/Z2 award.

As an alternative, you can fly FRA-SVX with LH (z1/z2) and fly Ural Airlines or Vladivostok Avia from SVX to KHV. Russian domestic fares will not be too expensive, I reckon. Transsiberian train is a good way to travel to Vladivostok, too.



Originally Posted by El Puerco Volante (Post 15389738)
No, I meant exactly what I said - I'd like to have a stopover at ICN. Since I have to fly to KHV and the only way to do it on *A award is trough ICN, it would be nice to have couple of days in ICN before proceeding to KHV.

So looks like nobody know if the rules allow stopovers in this case ( but a lot of people are very fast to jump to conclusions )

Thanks & regards,

El Puerco Volante.


El Puerco Volante Dec 6, 2010 5:18 am


Originally Posted by flytofly (Post 15390137)
Stopover at ICN is not allowed since you are flying on a Z1/Z2 award.

As an alternative, you can fly FRA-SVX with LH (z1/z2) and fly Ural Airlines or Vladivostok Avia from SVX to KHV. Russian domestic fares will not be too expensive, I reckon. Transsiberian train is a good way to travel to Vladivostok, too.

Thanks for the info. It's really a shame, stopover at ICN would be a nice added bonus. I'm not too tempted to fly on strange Russian airlines, to be honest - the safety record is far from excellent there.

Oh well, I will have to live without the stopover then :-(

Thanks again,

Regards,

El Puerco Volante.

maj09 Dec 6, 2010 5:28 am

Route change possible?
 
Afternoon folks
Pls feel free to shout/redirect me to other posts if necessary -

Just before I call the marvellous ICC I'd like some advice with this. I have a booked cash & miles leg with ANZ (LHR - LAX) towards Christmas, and would like help with these options:
1) Changing the date AND adding a stopover in JFK for couple of days.

2) Either of the above but making the final destination SFO.

Will they allow either of these options? Thanks in advance.

onlysuites Dec 6, 2010 5:34 am


Originally Posted by maj09 (Post 15390220)
Afternoon folks
Pls feel free to shout/redirect me to other posts if necessary -

Just before I call the marvellous ICC I'd like some advice with this. I have a booked cash & miles leg with ANZ (LHR - LAX) towards Christmas, and would like help with these options:
1) Changing the date AND adding a stopover in JFK for couple of days.

2) Either of the above but making the final destination SFO.

Will they allow either of these options? Thanks in advance.

Yeah that should be fine as long as you have not flown the first segment.

flytofly Dec 6, 2010 5:41 am

Provieded that award seats are still available, you can change the final destination to SFO, travel date, and also add a stopover in NYC.
But you will have to cancel the existing booking and make a new reservation, I guess.
It is subject to 25 Pounds cancellation fee, too.



Originally Posted by maj09 (Post 15390220)
Afternoon folks
Pls feel free to shout/redirect me to other posts if necessary -

Just before I call the marvellous ICC I'd like some advice with this. I have a booked cash & miles leg with ANZ (LHR - LAX) towards Christmas, and would like help with these options:
1) Changing the date AND adding a stopover in JFK for couple of days.

2) Either of the above but making the final destination SFO.

Will they allow either of these options? Thanks in advance.


maj09 Dec 6, 2010 7:42 am

Thanks for the responses.

Just to clarify, flytofly re this:

'But you will have to cancel the existing booking and make a new reservation, I guess.
It is subject to 25 Pounds cancellation fee, too'

I'm looking to do a leg 'change' for £20, rather than cancel and re-book. At this stage it's too risky to lose a xmas flight to LAX completely (especially ANZ BP!)

onlysuites Dec 6, 2010 11:26 am


Originally Posted by maj09 (Post 15390789)
Thanks for the responses.

Just to clarify, flytofly re this:

'But you will have to cancel the existing booking and make a new reservation, I guess.
It is subject to 25 Pounds cancellation fee, too'

I'm looking to do a leg 'change' for £20, rather than cancel and re-book. At this stage it's too risky to lose a xmas flight to LAX completely (especially ANZ BP!)

It will be a change fee of £20 only. No need to cancel and reissue as you are still flying to/from the same zones.

kempis Dec 6, 2010 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 15392253)
It will be a change fee of £20 only. No need to cancel and reissue as you are still flying to/from the same zones.

I have a booking ARN-OSL-CDG-BKK-PEK in a few weeks time, now seats have open up on ARN-BKK with TG so I will rebook and pay 20GBP in rebooking fee. Do I get airport taxes for the routing I will not be flying? The decrease in taxes are much more then 20GBP so if I get the taxes back I will get this rebooking free of charge :)


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