If NZ don't charge YQ out of AKL, why not break the journey in AKL and try to get NZ AKL-HKG/LAX-LHR?? Or do you mean there's no availability on them?

I think OZ has comparatively low YQ, so you might want to try routing via ICN, or do you need to specifically visit AKL?
4 hour transit in IST shouldn't make a difference as it's not a Z1-Z2 journey

Err...No!

Any way I would get away with the following route?

MAN - BJS // HKG - TYO // OSA - MAN

I know the open-jaw between TYO and OSA will be find, but how about the surface sector from BJS-HKG? Any chance the ICC will treat it as MAN-TYO with a stopover in China?

.....Going all the way to HKG in a z1-z2 is a new one on me, though... from barnstaple and orudge



I love it !! do you think the ICC would notice, if we all phoned up and asked for this one?:D

The first idea was to go AKL -NRT-ICN -LHR ....but now there are no seats with OZ due to a black out period during Jan! Gutted.

As a result, that is why I am now looking at AKL-PVG with NZ and then home with TK with IST. We did have AKL-BKK-SIN-LHR and with tax and cash it was over £600 each...which would not normally be a problem but as we are on a strict budget the Mrs is saying we can't afford that :roll eyes:

Regarding coming back via HGK or LAX...no chance, checked and nothing. Those seats do not normally open up till last minute.

Hilariuos :) But then I guess you were serious so definitely a big fat NO. This is really taking the "p*ss" by trying to route LHR-SIN via EWR. MPM is exploding on this one. You can do two redemptions LHR-EWR & EWR-SIN but not as 1 one-way.

Off course these are ridiculous - but stranger things have happened! Some of the routings allowed defy belief.

Thanks, YorkieFlyer! I called the ICC and they said no, pointing at the available JJ routing via GRU (the direct LH flight wasn't available). When I asked "why not" the agent clearly wasn't going to engage in any sort of discussion and repeated her "computer says no" line until I gave up. Do you think it's a MPM issue? If only the ICC would tell me WHY something's not permitted ....

They no longer care about the MPM. They apparently only care if the route comes up as eligible one on staralliance.com. Yes. I know. Totally crazy.

It seems that they have been trained on how to use the MPM excuse quite badly now. I was denied a PHL-MCO add on to a MAN-PHL ticket as it exceeded the MPM! :p

A simple call later and it was ticketed.

Like holtju2 says if its on the *A timetable then they normally allow it.

Haha, yes that is "funny" to deny that and has nothing to do with MPM. Oh well, BD DC is going down the drain anyways so I guess it is back to trying to be super creative and maximize.

ZRH OS VIE OS JFK (LGA) AC YUL (no Stopovers)

Valid routing Z1-Z3, OW 18750mi + £105 ?

ICC quotes some 30000mi with over £200 co-pay, each segment charged as single award. Reason: not the most direct routing...

Doable or not? HUACA? Thanks for your inputs!

this was in another thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18185106-post9.html
...you also have some backtracking in there. Seems to be ok if the route appears on staralliance.com
Unfortunately picking a different route because there is no availability on more direct routes does not wash
maybe worth another call if these are the only flights with availability....I would start with VIE to NYC then add the next flight, if that is ok you could try and ask for the ZRH part but don't be surprised if that is a no due to the backtracking and maybe think about a separate booking or revenue ticket for that part

Thanks! Thats the same I thought... I will try it again ;)

Don't agree: I booked (and have just flown) a complex routing with apparent backtracking, mixing 4 different carriers and with one stopover:

DUS-VIE (LH)
VIE-IAD (OS)
IAD-LGA (US)
Stopover
EWR-PBI (CO/UA)

There was no trouble with the routing (the backtracking is hardly noticeable on the map compared to the longer sectors).

It was a brilliant trip, by the way, every sector punctual with lovely service.