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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Sep 2, 2014, 11:09 am
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Double miles deal is back
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 4:58 pm
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Any tips on going to my local DELi (or coming back from it)?
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by newtonc
Double miles deal is back
Took long enough...
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by XMS91
Any tips on going to my local DELi (or coming back from it)?
Care to tell us where from? Or does that not matter?
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 11:44 am
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Is there any other way to get to C3 from C2 for cheap other than via the Muskateer? (Russian options being discarded). Primarily interested in the 35k mark in J or lower.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Is there any other way to get to C3 from C2 for cheap other than via the Muskateer? (Russian options being discarded). Primarily interested in the 35k mark in J or lower.
I just booked a trip for C3 to C2 in J for 30k.
Will PM you some options.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 3:38 am
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How about C2-C3 apart from the Putin's? Anything else left?
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 3:43 am
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Plenty of boomerangs.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by Shimon
Plenty of boomerangs.
From C3-C2 yes but the other way around there's only a handful left.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Care to tell us where from? Or does that not matter?
C1 - pretty much any airport ---- Thanks
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by XMS91
C1 - pretty much any airport ---- Thanks
So you're looking for C1-DEL.

No luck my friend. Europe isn't possible as a final destination (Air India flight times), Middle East is, but is just as expensive as Central Asia. So is North and South Asia (at least in C).

C1.5 or C4 or C5 don't present an option either, because AI doesn't fly there.

There also is only one "estranged" airport in the US, but it routes via Singapore, not Delhi.

Sorry...
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by XMS91
Any tips on going to my local DELi (or coming back from it)?
Originally Posted by XMS91
C1 - pretty much any airport ---- Thanks
Have you done ANY work yourself ?.

Took me 5 minutes to uncover 6 ( Y and J and F ) from London. I am sure ( know) there are many more.

Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Sep 5, 2014 at 5:43 am
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Old Sep 5, 2014, 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Have you done ANY work yourself ?.

Took me 5 minutes to uncover 6 ( Y and J and F ) from London. I am sure ( know) there are many more.
It is always easier to ask for the silver spoon
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 7:07 am
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Looking for advice from experts here:

Yesterday I booked a ticket on AV website on a Friday departure A-B-C-D on J. It was ticketed momentarily.

Today I found the availability of the same routing from .bomb on a Saturday departure but no luck to duplicate it on lifemiles.com. What makes me frustrated the most is: when I searched A-B on J, AV returned the flight availability; when I searched B-C-D on J, AV also showed availability, but when I searched it one-way with origin A to destination D, it won't return any results and show "Sold Out".

The routing is definitely doable, given that I had exactly the same routing booked and ticketed on AV website on a different date. I am wondering if anybody has experience on that to share?

P.S. don't want to call agents due to apparent reasons.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
So you're looking for C1-DEL.

No luck my friend. Europe isn't possible as a final destination (Air India flight times), Middle East is, but is just as expensive as Central Asia. So is North and South Asia (at least in C).

C1.5 or C4 or C5 don't present an option either, because AI doesn't fly there.

There also is only one "estranged" airport in the US, but it routes via Singapore, not Delhi.

Sorry...
Thanks WWW for all the help. I had checked for some boomers, but I hadn't been in this game since late May...a fair bit has changed

I ended up using some socked away AA miles so the price was right
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