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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Aug 12, 2014, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by FrugalLuxury
Seems UA TATL has plenty of Y, but little J availability.

I was looking at C1>C2 and checked multiple UA hubs in C1 and destinations in C2, but J is so few and far between...

Was wondering UA TATL historically always lacks J availability, or is it just a temporary thing? Would appreciate some enlightenment here
I booked 2 UA J for November a couple weeks ago. There was at least one other date with 2 J seats available in Nov. with LHR or CDG routing.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 10:11 am
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So I know of two airports wrongly coded as being in C1 and one airport wrongly coded as being in C6. All are still working. Anyone know if I should be looking for more or is this all that we know of for now?
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
So I know of two airports wrongly coded as being in C1 and one airport wrongly coded as being in C6. All are still working. Anyone know if I should be looking for more or is this all that we know of for now?
You didn't read too much of this thread, did you?
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 12:51 pm
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I have read all of this thread thank you very much. But I am just wondering if any others are still alive or if they are all dead.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
I have read all of this thread thank you very much. But I am just wondering if any others are still alive or if they are all dead.

Solved via PM
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
So I know of two airports wrongly coded as being in C1 and one airport wrongly coded as being in C6. All are still working. Anyone know if I should be looking for more or is this all that we know of for now?
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 3:27 pm
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Thanks Scibuff, that is helpful info. The barrage of stupid PMs was not helpful. I have a list of over 30 airports that are either miscoded or misplaced. I knew Haribo has been eaten but I wasn't sure if any of the others were still around or if there was more I hadn't found.

Seems like my list includes all the 3 miscoded airports, the rest are misplaced.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Thanks Scibuff, that is helpful info. The barrage of stupid PMs was not helpful. I have a list of over 30 airports that are either miscoded or misplaced. I knew Haribo has been eaten but I wasn't sure if any of the others were still around or if there was more I hadn't found.

Seems like my list includes all the 3 miscoded airports, the rest are misplaced.
Thank you very much for the "stupid" tag to my PM. [/Sarcasm off]
It was a first answer to your question outside this publicly accessible board, and I was ready to give you more information had you asked.

I believe the information given hier by scibuff publicly goes too far, far too far. This is exactly the kind of details we don't want a company representative to read.

PS the assumption of your PM you have all in C1 and C6 is wrong.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Thank you very much for the "stupid" tag to my PM. [/Sarcasm off]
It was a first answer to your question outside this publicly accessible board, and I was ready to give you more information had you asked.

I believe the information given hier by scibuff publicly goes too far, far too far. This is exactly the kind of details we don't want a company representative to read.

PS the assumption of your PM you have all in C1 and C6 is wrong.
I am not referring to your PM at all, I would love to continue that discussion. I was referring to some PMs from people with very few posts just asking for info in exchange for what seems like our favourite dead trick.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 4:11 pm
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I think you were referring to my PM, then.

I have two miscoded airports that are still working very well. I found them using the exact method that scibuff described. I misunderstood your earlier post thinking that you had 1 miscoded airport as C1, and 1 miscoded airport as C6. Since I have 2 miscoded airports as C1, I wanted to share the information.

I know that people don't just give away the information to the newbies so I did my best by offering whatever I had although they seem to be very popular already. At least I hoped that could be the indication that I had done my research before just asking the answers.

I don't know what part of my PM was wrong and stupid.
If you tell me how I can also start getting into Lifemiles tricks, that will be much appreciated.

Also, can anyone answer my question in the previous page regarding the scripting to find boomies?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
I am not referring to your PM at all, I would love to continue that discussion. I was referring to some PMs from people with very few posts just asking for info in exchange for what seems like our favourite dead trick.
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Old Aug 17, 2014, 10:51 am
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There is still life in Lifemiles

Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
I have read all of this thread thank you very much. But I am just wondering if any others are still alive or if they are all dead.

Positioning flights are extremely expensive. Really only good for a super adventure traveler who is planning to be in the neighborhood anyways ( maybe as part of an RTW ), as neither of the two airports involved are on Mainline Routing. I am also highly confident that none of our members live in either city, or country for that matter.

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Old Aug 17, 2014, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by scibuff
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uch i missed that what was it? Pm available
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Old Aug 18, 2014, 10:50 am
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Anyone having any luck with any of the C1-C1 boomerangs? I am only managing routing via C4 which is no fun!
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 2:55 am
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Anyone having any luck with any of the C1-C1 boomerangs? I am only managing routing via C4 which is no fun!
Not only no fun, but most of it cabotage, isn't it?

My advice would be don't look for Cx-Cx boomerangs.
Look for Cx-Cy.
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Not only no fun, but most of it cabotage, isn't it?

My advice would be don't look for Cx-Cx boomerangs.
Look for Cx-Cy.
Cx-Cy-Cx isn't always cabotage. Most continents have more than one country on them
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