May 26, 14, 9:47 am
Last edit by: SingaporeDon
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.
While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.
If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.
If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes
Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.
Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.
Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.
NOTE: This previous thread has been closed; it can be read here LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
May 26, 14, 9:47 am
#1
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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
Felow Lifemile enthusiasts,
following a rather nasty turn in the previous thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avian...nal-trick.html
The senior mods (who have the pleasure of moderating this corner of FT) decided to reboot the thread and start afresh.
So... share away, in whatever trick(y) language you can find. Keep in mind that this is FT, and while sharing (of opinions, tricks, ideas, opinions etc) is explicitly desired and allowed, one simple rule applies:
If you don't have anything to say on the topic, just don't say it.
Talking about others, the ethics or it all and similar personal things remains off topic and will be deleted.
So trick away!
Regards Oliver2002
Senior Mod
following a rather nasty turn in the previous thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avian...nal-trick.html
The senior mods (who have the pleasure of moderating this corner of FT) decided to reboot the thread and start afresh.
So... share away, in whatever trick(y) language you can find. Keep in mind that this is FT, and while sharing (of opinions, tricks, ideas, opinions etc) is explicitly desired and allowed, one simple rule applies:
If you don't have anything to say on the topic, just don't say it.
Talking about others, the ethics or it all and similar personal things remains off topic and will be deleted.
So trick away!
Regards Oliver2002
Senior Mod
May 26, 14, 10:02 am
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Thanks for restarting the thread. I saw the other one got locked, and was concerned we would lose this thread entirely, though I suspect there may be somewhat less to discuss in it now, but nevertheless - it is valuable to continue this discussion.
May 26, 14, 10:04 am
#3
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So I'm still seeing some availability C5 at good value though Airport taxes is rather exorbitant.
I'm wondering when the guillotine will fall on the piano teacher
I'm wondering when the guillotine will fall on the piano teacher
May 26, 14, 10:05 am
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May 26, 14, 10:18 am
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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
LM is a bit weird with the airport taxes in some places (but of course LM is weird with almost everything, that's why we are here no?). One of the no longer working boomerangs I looked at using, charged taxes at my connection point as though I was originating there. It wasn't an error with the airport, as doing a more linear connection gave a more accurate accounting of the taxes. I wonder if something similar is happening here?
And probably a good idea to do a thread reboot at this point.
And probably a good idea to do a thread reboot at this point.
May 26, 14, 11:40 am
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I am not seeing any changes at all. I have never tried to fly cabbages though with a layover at a Straenbahnhaltestelle.
All the "interesting" routes that I hoped to book are still there including chainy bears and cool C3 routes.
All the "interesting" routes that I hoped to book are still there including chainy bears and cool C3 routes.
May 26, 14, 12:17 pm
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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
my question was the last in the old thread so I will repeat:
I would like to be advised if in the current situation with LM is a good idea to buy miles + bonuses, it's another 6 days to go.
I would like to be advised if in the current situation with LM is a good idea to buy miles + bonuses, it's another 6 days to go.
May 26, 14, 12:20 pm
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Rule of the thumb is to buy and redeem immediately. If you see flights that are of interest to you and are available, buy and book asap.
May 26, 14, 12:21 pm
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Nobody can possibly know the answer to this in terms of where you see value in LM, how averse to risk you are and what are the chances of LM reducing the value that you currently find in the programme.
May 26, 14, 12:55 pm
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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
Yeah, I wouldn't dare buy miles at this point unless I was booking something near immediately or knew something would be readily available. We are in a period of great uncertainty.
May 26, 14, 1:43 pm
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LM is still great value even without tricks. But there are sudden devaluations possible anytime, so only buy and book.
May 26, 14, 1:43 pm
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Also make sure that there isn't any phantom availability, as that may be the case with some routes on LM.
