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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Sep 18, 2014, 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
Thats excellent. So will it be 35k in J o/w?
45k
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
45k
yep. Compared to 42k for Middle East... (or 78k for South Asia!)

In the old chart it is 57.5k, so that's a nice discount....
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 4:21 am
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Yeah 78K is significantly more expensive especially with the 10% increase in miles cost. But the good thing is I'll be paying 45K and on top of that LM ends up having to pay increased cost for my tickets lol
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by lewende
Again, you may save your efforts - a lot of nice booms have been rationalized.
Just found the process tricking LM itself is so fun
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
45k
Cool. Thanks
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Nothing is impossible (even with an airport change in DC, so powerful AV search engine is)


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Old Sep 18, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ssoonngg123
Nothing is impossible
You know, you don't have to fly to the cabotage king's home to find out that this routing is cabotage .
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by TheBOSman
You know, you don't have to fly to the cabotage king's home to find out that this routing is cabotage .
I hope I can one day grow up to be as tough and profound as you.
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Old Sep 18, 2014, 9:26 pm
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I'm seeing a changed behavior right now concerning session state while "anonymous", when there's no availability on the searched date.
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by Maayan
I'm seeing a changed behavior right now concerning session state while "anonymous", when there's no availability on the searched date.
ohoh, you think they became wise?
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 2:06 am
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cabotage king
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by Maayan
I'm seeing a changed behavior right now concerning session state while "anonymous", when there's no availability on the searched date.
agh

Last edited by mlqsko; Sep 19, 2014 at 3:09 am
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 7:56 am
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Really frustrated here, found J availability from cabotage king to woodcutter but not vice versa :/
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 8:29 pm
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can anyone share any information to get me on the right track with all this stuff?

I have used Lifemiles at a basic level but only know one or two of the tricks... it seems impossible especially flying out of Singapore/Oceania to find anything to get me in the right direction
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 10:29 pm
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Are there any airports in europe/airlines that let you claim your checked bags and skip the final legs? I'm booking a C1-C2 but don't want to continue to the final destination.
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