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Old Jul 16, 2015, 2:58 pm
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Post by brc757rr, July 2015:
Originally Posted by AA policy regarding PDB
Pre-departure beverages are expected to be offered on all flights. On domestic flights, customers should be offered a beverage of choice. On international flights with bonded liquor, we offer a choice of orange juice, water, sparkling water, sparkling wine and mimosas and will fulfill requests for non alcoholic beverages of choice provided that supplies can be obtained without opening bonded carts and carriers. If pre-departure beverages cannot be served because of operational reasons, flight attendants are expected to apologize to customers and advise that beverages will be served as soon as possible after take off.
Originally Posted by brc757rr
I was able to receive the exact language of the company policy from American Airlines today via Twitter regarding PDB's. I was actually quite impressed they followed up with me regarding a conversation that started a few days ago. I also received a nice note from Hector Adler who I also reached out to who said that pre-departure services were discussed at great length at a meeting late last week. Let's hope things begin to improve and if not we continue to press the FA's to follow company policy.
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So there you have it.
Originally Posted by RogerD408
Did a little searching on Twitter. A good hashtag could be just #PDBServed and the condition listed before that. So, something like:

@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG No #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Full #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Limited #PDBServed

This allows all PDB service to be posted, good, bad, and otherwise. This should show AA that we feel this is a desired service. Maybe if someone gets energetic, a summary post could be done, maybe weekly?
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by krlcomm
There are repercussions alright... pax that pay for F pay elsewhere. I fully realize that I am one lonely voice out here in the FT universe but I'm voting with my wallet and I can't believe that I'm the only one. And it's not just about the lack of a PDB, it's about the significant, consistent (IMO) downgrading of customer service overall, of which a PDB is a part of. I've been a big fan of AA over the past few years but this merger has brought out a crAApy side of some customer-facing employees that just cannot be ignored. I could be wrong and probably am ... YMMV...
I absolutely agree and I'm doing the same thing. I now will only purchase F on AA when I particularly feel like I need it or when it's very deeply discounted, I otherwise rely on upgrading as that's about all the AA F product is worth (really not even that much when you realize they aren't complimentary for GLD and PLT). On the other hand I've found that I can often purchase F on DL, UA, or VX depending on where I'm going for cheaper than what AA sells it for, and in some cases, even cheaper than what AA is selling Y for at any given moment (especially DL and especially on the East Coast and to Texas).

A little thing like a PDB of choice delivered with a smile and greeting is enough for me to choose spending money elsewhere. Do I need the PDB? Of course not, but at least I feel as though I'm receiving some sort of value for the product I purchased.
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DEN-DFW pmAA B737 (old interior) PDB of water or OJ with ice.
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AA2322, 8/31, ORD-PBI, 8:05PM departure. No PDB.

Catered prior to boarding. FA’s busy on phones and chatting during boarding.

Nice enough FA’s during flight, just lAAzy. 2-3 in the front cabin most of the flight talking.
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 6:37 pm
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DFW-ATL pmAA A319. PDB of choice from a hard-working crew. ^^

ATL-DFW pmAA 737-800 -- What? 2 pmAA flights in a row with PDB of choice?? Yup! Another outstanding crew. ^^
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 6:42 pm
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Originally Posted by UAPremierGuy
DFW-ATL pmAA A319. PDB of choice from a hard-working crew. ^^

ATL-DFW pmAA 737-800 -- What? 2 pmAA flights in a row with PDB of choice?? Yup! Another outstanding crew. ^^
Perhaps it's more of a priority since they compete with DL on this route.
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Hmmm ... looking back over the last weeks there seems to be increasing reports of full PDB service from crews noted as pmAA and (as a rough selection) those segments not involving PHL/PHX/CLT.
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Perhaps it's more of a priority since they compete with DL on this route.
It would be interesting to do a route analysis to see if there is a difference.
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
I absolutely agree and I'm doing the same thing. I now will only purchase F on AA when I particularly feel like I need it or when it's very deeply discounted, I otherwise rely on upgrading as that's about all the AA F product is worth (really not even that much when you realize they aren't complimentary for GLD and PLT). On the other hand I've found that I can often purchase F on DL, UA, or VX depending on where I'm going for cheaper than what AA sells it for, and in some cases, even cheaper than what AA is selling Y for at any given moment (especially DL and especially on the East Coast and to Texas).

A little thing like a PDB of choice delivered with a smile and greeting is enough for me to choose spending money elsewhere. Do I need the PDB? Of course not, but at least I feel as though I'm receiving some sort of value for the product I purchased.
I book close in and at times DL F is cheaper than AA/US Y to Miami. As an EXP more than likely I will end up in F but its nice not playing the F lottery at the gate. And I agree F service on DL is much more personable.
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Ok...what airline am I flying? ANOTHER PDB OF CHOICE today DFW-DEN pmAA Boeing 737-800! ^^^

I better buy a lottery ticket!
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Originally Posted by UAPremierGuy
Ok...what airline am I flying? ANOTHER PDB OF CHOICE today DFW-DEN pmAA Boeing 737-800! ^^^

I better buy a lottery ticket!
Originally Posted by serfty
Hmmm ... looking back over the last weeks there seems to be increasing reports of full PDB service from crews noted as pmAA and (as a rough selection) those segments not involving PHL/PHX/CLT.
Maybe the message is getting though - see brc757rr's post included in the wiki:
Originally Posted by brc757rr
I was able to receive the exact language of the company policy from American Airlines today via Twitter regarding PDB's. I was actually quite impressed they followed up with me regarding a conversation that started a few days ago. I also received a nice note from Hector Adler who I also reached out to who said that pre-departure services were discussed at great length at a meeting late last week. Let's hope things begin to improve ...
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RSW-DFW 8/21 PM departure No PDB -- New Hire Crew. Boarding complete 10 minutes before door closing. Service in-flight was quite good.

DFW-MIA 8/24 AM departure No PDB -- Lazy senior crew. Service in-flight was fair at best.
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Monday 3wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 2wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 1wk ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only

Ok ok I get it. We all hate Mondays
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ckx2
Monday 3wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 2wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 1wk ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only

Ok ok I get it. We all hate Mondays
Yikes the dreaded 5am departure on a Monday......that sounds like h** to me!
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
Yikes the dreaded 5am departure on a Monday......that sounds like h** to me!
The Sunday flights to be client ready but sleep deprived Monday AM suck too.
At 5AM I would be so mouth dry from lack of sleep I would be killing for at ice water.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by ckx2
Monday 3wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 2wks ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only
Monday 1wk ago LAS-ORD 5am - water only

Ok ok I get it. We all hate Mondays
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays! (Sorry I couldn't help myself)
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