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enviroian Feb 6, 2024 5:11 am

5 flights this week all in the back. FCM at it's finest!

enviroian Feb 7, 2024 11:09 am

Yay! Batting 38% upgrades this YTD it’s appreciated.

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happiest_at_40000 Feb 7, 2024 5:49 pm

Figured I would get much better support on this on FT than with AA and all their new agents who dont know too much.

I bought a FLL-LAX one way rev ticket in F/J for my Mom and I to get home from Florida and at the time of booking FLL-CLT only had 1 seat left and we were put into economy for the short flight. I noticed now that there are 2 seats open and was wondering if I call in is it as simple as them being able to see it was purchased as a F ticket (CLT-LAX we are both in F) and now they will give us the 2 seats in F on the short haul? I am assuming the answer is no. I'm used to stuff like wtih miles on partner awards where you can call back in and add a short haul and still have it priced at the same if a J seat opened up on the short haul portion. No clue how this works in my current situation though.

And my next question is I noticed 8 open seats from PBI at nearly the same time as the FLL flight so the timing would be perfect. Will AA allow us to change the first flight to PBI for no charge then we would have a much better shot at the comp. upgrade.. Being its the same market I wasnt sure. The earlier FLL flight has 7 open seats but it leaves very early but curious if that would be an an acceptable change if the PBI isnt allowed?

Or can really nothing be done until the same day of flying? I was just wanting to try to position us to be in a better spot for the upgrade on the short flight.

Thanks :)

fastflyer Feb 8, 2024 7:49 am


Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 (Post 35979913)
Figured I would get much better support on this on FT than with AA and all their new agents who dont know too much.

I bought a FLL-LAX one way rev ticket in F/J for my Mom and I to get home from Florida and at the time of booking FLL-CLT only had 1 seat left and we were put into economy for the short flight. I noticed now that there are 2 seats open and was wondering if I call in is it as simple as them being able to see it was purchased as a F ticket (CLT-LAX we are both in F) and now they will give us the 2 seats in F on the short haul? I am assuming the answer is no. I'm used to stuff like wtih miles on partner awards where you can call back in and add a short haul and still have it priced at the same if a J seat opened up on the short haul portion. No clue how this works in my current situation though.

And my next question is I noticed 8 open seats from PBI at nearly the same time as the FLL flight so the timing would be perfect. Will AA allow us to change the first flight to PBI for no charge then we would have a much better shot at the comp. upgrade.. Being its the same market I wasnt sure. The earlier FLL flight has 7 open seats but it leaves very early but curious if that would be an an acceptable change if the PBI isnt allowed?

Or can really nothing be done until the same day of flying? I was just wanting to try to position us to be in a better spot for the upgrade on the short flight.

Thanks :)

Neither of these request should be deferred until the day of travel With AA, like most businesses, it is always better to handle discrepancies early.

Your first request should be resolved first (i.e., getting the F seat you believe you paid for). If the ticket is in fact in an unavailable, discounted F inventory you may want to ensure you are listed as "DSR" aka desiring a seat in the paid cabin, but currently seated in economy. If you are in full F, they should simply put the pax into the cabin you paid for.

Once that is complete -- F seats for FLL-CLT(-LAX), then you can call back and ask about switching to PBI-CLT(-LAX). You might also ask about going MIA-LAX which has multiple nonstop flights per day. MIA is actually closer to FLL than PBI is.

EXP100 Feb 8, 2024 8:56 am

For the most part I've been taking AA on it's fairly generous upgrade offers. Don't see many paxs clearing at the gate and lots of Group 1 people heading towards the back. Last Saturday AM MIA/DFW number 12 on the 772 with around rolling 12 month 260K LP. Had seat 13A so no biggie. DFW/PSP this Saturday looks real tough with upgrade offer currently at $788. No thanks I'll take my 11F seat on the 321ceo.

ChurnieEls Feb 8, 2024 1:40 pm

I think you'll see more and more CK/EP heading for the back now the upgrade offers count for LP purposes.

Also got a nice #1 for 1 seat confirmed Monday just gone on the last JFK-DCA.

Proactive PDB on the ground and nothing in the air with the usual 'keeping the seatbelt on expecting turbulence' from the flight deck. I just kind of come to expect that these days. Pretty poor to anyone paying $000s to sit up there, I've flown DUB-MAN on FR and managed to get a beer and a hot sandwich off them with an offer of a second drink, and that's like 40 minutes flying time or less. I swear to God, if you introduced tipping there wouldn't be one bit of attention paid to 'turbulence'.

happiest_at_40000 Feb 8, 2024 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by fastflyer (Post 35981372)
Neither of these request should be deferred until the day of travel With AA, like most businesses, it is always better to handle discrepancies early.

Your first request should be resolved first (i.e., getting the F seat you believe you paid for). If the ticket is in fact in an unavailable, discounted F inventory you may want to ensure you are listed as "DSR" aka desiring a seat in the paid cabin, but currently seated in economy. If you are in full F, they should simply put the pax into the cabin you paid for.

Once that is complete -- F seats for FLL-CLT(-LAX), then you can call back and ask about switching to PBI-CLT(-LAX). You might also ask about going MIA-LAX which has multiple nonstop flights per day. MIA is actually closer to FLL than PBI is.

Cool thanksI am going to give them a call back. I did try and the lady I got didnt even understand what I was simply trying to do. She kept trying to put me through Dallas or diff flights from CLT when I couldnt have been more clear that I did not want to touch the sole widebody of the day from CLT and simply wanted to try to get in a better position for upgrades from FLL (or PBI). Some of these new agents AA has hired are so bad.

Edit: Called again and no dice doing anything. Was told the FLL flight is in Y fare with the CLT flight in R fare and they cant do anything to put me into F on my FLL flight or the earlier one with many more open seats. Maybe the agent is completely right I really dont know but once again it took so long for them to understand what I wanted and so so long for him to do anything. Dead silence for 5 minutes then some typing and noises for another 3 and finally he said he cant do anything. Some of his questions made it seem just like the first lady that he really didnt know what he was doing.

Is this a HUCA situation and I should keep trying or maybe I really cant be moved based on the ticket I bought. There are 2 seats now on my FLL flight and 6 on the earlier one.

As for MIA would love to fly home non stop but this ticket via Charlotte was a much better deal.

FlightNurse Feb 9, 2024 8:26 am


Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 (Post 35979913)
Figured I would get much better support on this on FT than with AA and all their new agents who dont know too much.

I bought a FLL-LAX one way rev ticket in F/J for my Mom and I to get home from Florida and at the time of booking FLL-CLT only had 1 seat left and we were put into economy for the short flight. I noticed now that there are 2 seats open and was wondering if I call in is it as simple as them being able to see it was purchased as a F ticket (CLT-LAX we are both in F) and now they will give us the 2 seats in F on the short haul? I am assuming the answer is no. I'm used to stuff like wtih miles on partner awards where you can call back in and add a short haul and still have it priced at the same if a J seat opened up on the short haul portion. No clue how this works in my current situation though.

And my next question is I noticed 8 open seats from PBI at nearly the same time as the FLL flight so the timing would be perfect. Will AA allow us to change the first flight to PBI for no charge then we would have a much better shot at the comp. upgrade.. Being its the same market I wasnt sure. The earlier FLL flight has 7 open seats but it leaves very early but curious if that would be an an acceptable change if the PBI isnt allowed?

Or can really nothing be done until the same day of flying? I was just wanting to try to position us to be in a better spot for the upgrade on the short flight.

Thanks :)

On all of my reservations there is always on offer to pay for an upgrade, am I the only one who gets these? I see so many people ask the same question as you.

Rowyourboat Feb 9, 2024 8:27 am

PP, got upgraded SFO -> JFK at T-72 to a lie-flat seat :cool:. I'm like 3/5 on these transcon upgrades which is pretty wild.

FlightNurse Feb 9, 2024 8:27 am


Originally Posted by npretnar (Post 35895629)
I've found JFK-BCN to also be a somewhat difficult upgrade, compared to JFK-MAD, which usually has confirmable space in advance. IB still offers hourly service to BCN from MAD, so it's a fairly easy connection (other than navigating the enormity of Barajas airport). Just FYI.

Many times those who are flying to BCN are going on a cruise. MAD is much easier to upgrade on.

FlightNurse Feb 9, 2024 8:29 am


Originally Posted by ChurnieEls (Post 35982491)
I think you'll see more and more CK/EP heading for the back now the upgrade offers count for LP purposes.

Also got a nice #1 for 1 seat confirmed Monday just gone on the last JFK-DCA.

Proactive PDB on the ground and nothing in the air with the usual 'keeping the seatbelt on expecting turbulence' from the flight deck. I just kind of come to expect that these days. Pretty poor to anyone paying $000s to sit up there, I've flown DUB-MAN on FR and managed to get a beer and a hot sandwich off them with an offer of a second drink, and that's like 40 minutes flying time or less. I swear to God, if you introduced tipping there wouldn't be one bit of attention paid to 'turbulence'.

CK in the back? Maybe on a last-minute purchase ticket. EP's yes, since getting EP is as easy as ordering Grubhub.

EXP100 Feb 9, 2024 8:45 am


Originally Posted by FlightNurse (Post 35984530)
CK in the back? Maybe on a last-minute purchase ticket. EP's yes, since getting EP is as easy as ordering Grubhub.

I'm seeing CKs headed back there. Remember some CKs are given that through a gift process. (AA awards a big corporate travel department manager CK and allows them to gift 1 or 2 others). So they might not be CKs that travel extensively in paid premium.

happiest_at_40000 Feb 9, 2024 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by fastflyer (Post 35981372)
Neither of these request should be deferred until the day of travel With AA, like most businesses, it is always better to handle discrepancies early.

Your first request should be resolved first (i.e., getting the F seat you believe you paid for). If the ticket is in fact in an unavailable, discounted F inventory you may want to ensure you are listed as "DSR" aka desiring a seat in the paid cabin, but currently seated in economy. If you are in full F, they should simply put the pax into the cabin you paid for.

Once that is complete -- F seats for FLL-CLT(-LAX), then you can call back and ask about switching to PBI-CLT(-LAX). You might also ask about going MIA-LAX which has multiple nonstop flights per day. MIA is actually closer to FLL than PBI is.

4 diff phone agents and one person over chat are unable to help so I give up. Mabye what I bought was truly an F ticket on the long haul but a Y ticket on on the short haul & they cant do anything about it. I am not sure tbh. They had no clue what DSR meant and all said they cant help me.

I guess Y on the FLL-CLT leg it is barring an upgrade.

JackIs Feb 9, 2024 9:30 pm

270k LP EP
GRR-CLT AA1399 - Cleared T-32 +1 gold guest.
CLT-GRR AA676 - 3 and 4 on waitlist with guest. App showed 3 seats left. Both cleared 20 mins before boarding.
Recently, I have seen AA hold off on many upgrades until the gate. The policy used to be to just hold one seat until GA arrives, but after talking to an agent the new policy in the system is once you're on the waitlist, you're on the waitlist. Only way to get off is by the GA at the gate.

npretnar Feb 9, 2024 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by ChurnieEls (Post 35982491)
I think you'll see more and more CK/EP heading for the back now the upgrade offers count for LP purposes.

Also got a nice #1 for 1 seat confirmed Monday just gone on the last JFK-DCA.

Proactive PDB on the ground and nothing in the air with the usual 'keeping the seatbelt on expecting turbulence' from the flight deck. I just kind of come to expect that these days. Pretty poor to anyone paying $000s to sit up there, I've flown DUB-MAN on FR and managed to get a beer and a hot sandwich off them with an offer of a second drink, and that's like 40 minutes flying time or less. I swear to God, if you introduced tipping there wouldn't be one bit of attention paid to 'turbulence'.

do they count now? I bought one the other day and it still said no LPs


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