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FlightNurse Jun 6, 2024 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by theboss7593 (Post 36287813)
EXP with 350K rolling.

Recent trips May/June (seems a lot of T-25 (24 hours 50 minutes or so to be exact) upgrades where as April/May was all T-27.

LAX-PHL 2 of u on same res cleared at T-25
ONT-DFW did not clear (J was sold out) but ended up not taking flight around T-20 (so not sure where on the list I would've been)
DFW-EWR did clear (T-25) but did not take flight as did not take previous flight.
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When did ONT get a A321T ?

theboss7593 Jun 6, 2024 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by FlightNurse (Post 36287999)
When did ONT get a A321T ?

You know what I mean.....

Jabarie MacQuarrie Jun 6, 2024 10:37 pm

Plat Pro, probably ~130K LP last 12 months

5/30 AA5419 DCA-MCI cleared at T-11 hours
6/2 AA5419 MCI-DCA 2/10 for 0 seats, they were asking for rebooking volunteers at the gate

JJeffrey Jun 7, 2024 5:47 am


Originally Posted by Upgradehungry (Post 36287755)
Seems like the best strategy is to not request auto upgrade at time of booking to see what the paid upgrade offer shows. The complimentary request can be made much closer to the travel date. In your experience, does the dollar amount of the paid offer readjust as the date of travel nears?

I am a bit annoyed with AA that the paid upgrade option is in play. Sort of at odds with the stated/well marketed benefit of "unlimited auto-requested complimentary upgrades" for status members . Would be interesting to know if they hold a certain amount of upgrades back for that purpose, or if it is purely a revenue play at this point.

The auto-requested complimentary elite upgrades do not preclude you from receiving the buy-up upgrade offers. In your case it seems like just a glitch that you didn't receive an offer but your son did. Sometimes the offers don't show up, or just need to refresh your reservation to see it or log out and back in again, etc.

I'd suggest combing through the 2 below threads, there are hundreds of pages of discussion on AA's upgrade offers.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ispreloading=1

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ispreloading=1





EXP100 Jun 7, 2024 7:19 am


Originally Posted by Upgradehungry (Post 36287755)
Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. I tend to book well in advance, and used to think the date of the upgrade request was a factor in determining clearance priority. I probably made that up, but seem to remember that it was the case at some point in the long ago past.

Seems like the best strategy is to not request auto upgrade at time of booking to see what the paid upgrade offer shows. The complimentary request can be made much closer to the travel date. In your experience, does the dollar amount of the paid offer readjust as the date of travel nears?

I am a bit annoyed with AA that the paid upgrade option is in play. Sort of at odds with the stated/well marketed benefit of "unlimited auto-requested complimentary upgrades" for status members . Would be interesting to know if they hold a certain amount of upgrades back for that purpose, or if it is purely a revenue play at this point.

That was the system year ago. Now its rolling 12 month flying and partner spend within the elite levels. Complimentary upgrade requests are now automatically applied when you book as an elite and I think you need to call in to get taken off the list. However, you should still get offers. And no AA will not hold back F seats for upgrades. If every seat gets sold through purchased F or cash upgrade and a CK sits in the back that's the way it goes. I've seen my share of getting on a flight (I now almost always either buy F or purchase the upgrade) and see people that boarded with CK status sitting in the back.

FlightNurse Jun 7, 2024 9:17 am


Originally Posted by theboss7593 (Post 36288025)
You know what I mean.....

I stopped assuming what others write 40 years ago.

capecod0321 Jun 7, 2024 7:41 pm

Logic for Miles upgrade with multiple legs
 
Flying ORD-DFW-ICN. Called in for mileage upgrade and added to waitlist. I see that I'm added to the waitlist for the international leg, but nothing shows for the domestic leg. My understanding is that a mileage upgrade is applicable to 3 legs per direction. If the international leg clears and space is available on the domestic leg, will the domestic leg also clear even though right now the app says "not applicable"? Did I request the mileage upgrade correctly based on what's shown? I'm not interested in upgrading only the domestic leg only of course.


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JJeffrey Jun 7, 2024 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by capecod0321 (Post 36290523)
Flying ORD-DFW-ICN. Called in for mileage upgrade and added to waitlist. I see that I'm added to the waitlist for the international leg, but nothing shows for the domestic leg. My understanding is that a mileage upgrade is applicable to 3 legs per direction. If the international leg clears and space is available on the domestic leg, will the domestic leg also clear even though right now the app says "not applicable"? Did I request the mileage upgrade correctly based on what's shown? I'm not interested in upgrading only the domestic leg only of course

That is the way you want it set up, only requested for the long haul segments. If the long haul segments clear, then you request the short haul segments. But you'll have to do that manually by calling AA, they won't be requested automatically.

Otherwise if all 4 segments were requested, then if ORD-DFW cleared you would be charged the full 25k + $350 regardless of whether DFW-ICN ever cleared or not.

capecod0321 Jun 7, 2024 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 36290574)
That is the way you want it set up, only requested for the long haul segments. If the long haul segments clear, then you request the short haul segments. But you'll have to do that manually by calling AA, they won't be requested automatically.

Otherwise if all 4 segments were requested, then if ORD-DFW cleared you would be charged the full 25k + $350 regardless of whether DFW-ICN ever cleared or not.

Excellent thanks for explaining. I'll look at the ORD-DFW availability once/if DFW-ICN clears and call in!

Yank8823 Jun 7, 2024 10:17 pm

PLT - 110k LP Rolling 12 months, Rev Ticket

6/4 PIT - DFW, 11/25, 1 cleared at gate
6/4 DFW - AUS, 13/27, 5 cleared at gate
6/7 AUS - DFW, 12/28, 6 cleared at gate, also saw a pilot sitting in first, which I don't think I've seen before, curious how that works?
6/7 DFW - PIT, 12/25, 0 cleared. Sat in Exit Row with 2 EXP, said they were 7th and 9th on list (9th was a Non-Rev)

ryanbriar Jun 8, 2024 12:34 am


Originally Posted by Yank8823 (Post 36290722)
PLT - 110k LP Rolling 12 months, Rev Ticket

6/4 PIT - DFW, 11/25, 1 cleared at gate
6/4 DFW - AUS, 13/27, 5 cleared at gate
6/7 AUS - DFW, 12/28, 6 cleared at gate, also saw a pilot sitting in first, which I don't think I've seen before, curious how that works?
6/7 DFW - PIT, 12/25, 0 cleared. Sat in Exit Row with 2 EXP, said they were 7th and 9th on list (9th was a Non-Rev)

Per the latest pilot contract, they sit in F if dead-heading (generally speaking) to the extent there are open F seats and Y is booked (someone can correct me on the last part).

Also, non-rev meaning using miles and not cash. A true non-rev isn’t eligible for an upgrade (my understanding at least).

I’ve been seeing some deep upgrade lists (35-40+) in and out of Boston over the past month, even on flights that are at 75% capacity. It would be interesting to see the status breakdown to see how many are gold etc. based on LPs from a CC with limited flying.

Yank8823 Jun 8, 2024 5:37 am


Originally Posted by ryanbriar (Post 36290846)
Per the latest pilot contract, they sit in F if dead-heading (generally speaking) to the extent there are open F seats and Y is booked (someone can correct me on the last part).

Also, non-rev meaning using miles and not cash. A true non-rev isn’t eligible for an upgrade (my understanding at least).

I’ve been seeing some deep upgrade lists (35-40+) in and out of Boston over the past month, even on flights that are at 75% capacity. It would be interesting to see the status breakdown to see how many are gold etc. based on LPs from a CC with limited flying.

Thanks for the info on the Pilot info, makes sense! And I'm pretty sure you can be upgraded on award flights, just lower upgrade priority than a paid fare.

ryanbriar Jun 8, 2024 6:26 am


Originally Posted by Yank8823 (Post 36291141)
Thanks for the info on the Pilot info, makes sense! And I'm pretty sure you can be upgraded on award flights, just lower upgrade priority than a paid fare.

Yep, that’s correct re: priority!

PowerLu Jun 10, 2024 8:03 am


Originally Posted by Yank8823 (Post 36291141)
Thanks for the info on the Pilot info, makes sense! And I'm pretty sure you can be upgraded on award flights, just lower upgrade priority than a paid fare.

Comp upgrades on award fares have the same priority as paid fares.

pharmflyer Jun 10, 2024 11:11 am

PLT, unsure of rolling LPs, probably 85K or so. Traveling with my wife (no status) ORD-DEN last Wednesday night. ended up #11/12 out of about 22 for 1 seat. 2 more were upgraded after boarding was completed (#2 and 4 on the list). Happy with my 8A/C with 8B empty for this flight!


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