afmiami

DATA POINT: I did a test and converted some points into miles to my personal AA account: transfer is immediate, just miles and no loyalty points

bedelman

Thank you for the clear tabulation. Devastatingly true.

Also:
Before: $90k spend yields 18k BX points yields non-capacity-controlled Anytime round-trip business class award from US to Europe or Asia
After: $90k yields 90k AAdvantage points which yields at most a one-way. Could be worse bc often peak days are well above 90k one-way.
>50% devaluation.

dcdaveo

Just shy of an award. Any way to get some points without making a pointless flight?

LovePrunes

That's almost DELTA bad

card1953

Looks like I may not be able to redeem my points for AAdvantage miles because I don't have 3 unique travelers. Is this correct? I guess I did not pay attention to the program changes if so.
And where would I enter the unique travelers?

Antarius

IIRC, you need 3 travelers who have used the BE number on their flights.

Beckles

This program is an infinite improvement for individual travelers in that it earns them something as opposed to the existing program which individual travelers have no incentive to participate in. I can say for the small business I work with that with 100 plus travelers the struggle is real to get people to participate if there is no benefit to them.

JMN57

You need to have 3 travelers who have registered as on the BE account/number. I don't think they have to have used it on their flights. I know for my LLC I have myself, my wife and my nephew all registered. My wife and I have flown and received BE credits, my nephew is registered but has not yet flown a flight with it (and given the changes will probably never).

Antarius

As users? I don't have anyone but myself as the travel manager on my site, but am good with the >3 requirement.

Where do you add all the travelers?

JMN57

Each person (FF member) enters the BE# into their profile. That said, I went to look at the account information section on the website and I don't see it anymore. I wonder that as part of the wind down they removed the ability to add BE # to an account.

DataPlumber

If you have enough points for anytime awards, let’s say I book 3-4 tix for will I be able to change dates or even destinations (same region) after the shutdown, Like a normal ticket change?

GoBirds

First AA announces the removal of F class from international and transcon aircraft, then they shut down the Airpass program with no notice, and now this. Sure seems like they've given up on the business traveler. I know other carriers are doing similar things, but it's all a bit jarring after decades of premium, often last minute business travelers basically supporting their business model.

LovePrunes

I don't think AA has given up on "business travelers"
Biz Extra was a program for business owners/management, not necessarily even the same people as "business travelers"
They're streamlining what tickets/classes and how they sell those tickets to save money on the distribution end, which is smart. They're replacing the 3-class narrowbody transcons with 2-class biz and coach, with sliding doors (whoopee), but joining the ranks of Delta/United for a similar domestic transcon offering, both of which eliminated their 3rd class on transcons years ago. Biz class (Delta still calls their biz class first cass), was for biz travelers, which AA still has...The equivalent of Delta One and United Polaris. All of this happens once AA takes delivery of enough XLRs to move the 321Ts off transcons. Probably well into 2025. But hardly turning their backs on "business travelers" any more than UA or DL. If anything, they're providing more biz class to biz travelers in the XLRs seats by removing the 10 first class 321T seats that did not include comp upgrades to sit there.

GoBirds

Well, as a business owner and now former longtime Airpass member who flies regularly on AA on last minute F fare tickets, both internationally and domestically, they've definitely given up on people like me, but I take your point that perhaps I should have used a different description and not business traveler.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I will miss both transcon and international F cabins. Yes, the current F cabins are a bit long in the tooth, but even if the new Flagship suites may offer a little more privacy with the very little door, from my point of view the much smaller current F cabins are much more "intimate", often though not always with better, more attentive service, then the enormous upcoming revised business cabins will likely be. Of course you are correct that this is the direction most carriers are moving, so I don't really have any choice other than to accept it and hope for the best.

Mtvitale

I’m 90% sure I understand all this… Can I use a BX6D award from business extra to book an award flight before 12/15/23 with a travel date in the spring of 2024? As a side note, is that award code eligible for an upgrade as a Plat flyer? THX all.