Any potential they extend status again in '21?
#106
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A lot of people saying they "will go free agent if my airline doesn't do X." Well if none of the airlines do X (and I would bet none of the major US airlines just extend status for a another yet), then the "free agents" will just reallocate themselves among the major US airlines.
Sure heavy domestic flyers are captive and will float amongst the big 3 (or AS now), but people like myself who log 90% of my miles international, are easy to go Free Agent and restart with a foreign carrier with relatively little impact to my benefits. I think it would be foolish of AA, UA, or DL to cast those people away this year. I expect quite a few of the AA EXPs, DL Diamonds, and UA 1Ks are very international heavy as well.
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I qualified last year EXP all CONUS, and will requalify EXP this year in the next 30 days, all CONUS. I would love to qualify on wide body J seats OCONUS, but that is not how my business travel works. I cover 40 US states. Starting this summer, my area of responsibility is should be reduced to 16 states.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
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I qualified last year EXP all CONUS, and will requalify EXP this year in the next 30 days, all CONUS. I would love to qualify on wide body J seats OCONUS, but that is not how my business travel works. I cover 40 US states. Starting this summer, my area of responsibility is should be reduced to 16 states.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
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I qualified last year EXP all CONUS, and will requalify EXP this year in the next 30 days, all CONUS. I would love to qualify on wide body J seats OCONUS, but that is not how my business travel works. I cover 40 US states. Starting this summer, my area of responsibility is should be reduced to 16 states.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
All I can say is near every AA flight is currently full. And lots of credit card applications being accepted by PAX. When the stimulus check money runs out, no idea what loads will be. But today... AA planes are FULL.
AA has no reason to extend status, as the pandemic is not holding people back from flying, and the volume is ramping back up. The volume definitely won't reach pre-pandemic levels, unless companies return to pre-pandemic level of travel. Had the US limited or made domestic travel difficult secondary to regulations, then I would have expected AA and other airlines to extend status. Doubtful any extension will be given out this year.
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I neither agree or disagree with this comment. It's up to AA what they want to do of course. However if they don't extend status because people are flying so much again then they need to resume service to pre-covid levels, full stop.
Also if UA and DL extend status AA will do so in a microsecond.
Also if UA and DL extend status AA will do so in a microsecond.
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It is wonderful that AA and other airlines are able to fully utilize some of their aircraft, but as long as some are still not in use at all, it doesn't really matter that flights that you are on are full.
I do remember reading a story that AA will be un-parking the remainder of their aircraft, I believe the date is either May 1 or May 15, I can't remember which.
Many companies, mine included, have halted any company-related travel. Well mine does permit some, with the approval of the CEO or one of his direct reports. Things will remain like this until after Labor Day.
#114
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What percentage of AA aircraft are still parked?
It is wonderful that AA and other airlines are able to fully utilize some of their aircraft, but as long as some are still not in use at all, it doesn't really matter that flights that you are on are full.
I do remember reading a story that AA will be un-parking the remainder of their aircraft, I believe the date is either May 1 or May 15, I can't remember which.
Many companies, mine included, have halted any company-related travel. Well mine does permit some, with the approval of the CEO or one of his direct reports. Things will remain like this until after Labor Day.
It is wonderful that AA and other airlines are able to fully utilize some of their aircraft, but as long as some are still not in use at all, it doesn't really matter that flights that you are on are full.
I do remember reading a story that AA will be un-parking the remainder of their aircraft, I believe the date is either May 1 or May 15, I can't remember which.
Many companies, mine included, have halted any company-related travel. Well mine does permit some, with the approval of the CEO or one of his direct reports. Things will remain like this until after Labor Day.
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I have no idea. I am currently at the Marriot DFW overlooking the runway (attached is the just snapped picture). AA planes waiting in a continual line to take off, so although unscientific, seems like AA is flying their birds. Two weeks ago I flew on a CR7 with a 1980s like interior (picture attached) that I never saw before.... so I speculated they are in need of using some of their older aircraft. Yes, widebodies are underutilized, but AA seems like they are running a hefty amount of their fleet, and retired what they no longer want to fly.
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...ounded-planes/
American is storing aircraft throughout the system, though primarily at four airports. Here are those airports, along with the type of aircraft being stored at each:
- Tulsa, Oklahoma (TUL): 737 MAX 8, 757, 777-200, 777-300ER, 787-8, 787-9
- Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (PIT): A320, A321, A330, E-190
- Roswell, New Mexico (ROW): 737 MAX 8, 737-800, 757, 767, 777-200
- Mobile, Alabama (BFM): A321, 777-200
Have you visited any of those airports and seen the aircraft parked?
#117
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They weren't parked at DFW:
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...ounded-planes/
Have you visited any of those airports and seen the aircraft parked?
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...ounded-planes/
Have you visited any of those airports and seen the aircraft parked?
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Exactly. It is where AA parked their planes last year. My question was, "how many are still parked?"
What do the take-off lines look like for AA at JFK, PHL, ORD, and LAX?
There was a recent thread about someone trying to fly QR from JFK on an AA miles issued ticket. They had issues, and by 8pm there were no AA employees present. 2 years ago, if memory serves, AA had flights from JFK until about midnight.
What do the take-off lines look like for AA at JFK, PHL, ORD, and LAX?
There was a recent thread about someone trying to fly QR from JFK on an AA miles issued ticket. They had issues, and by 8pm there were no AA employees present. 2 years ago, if memory serves, AA had flights from JFK until about midnight.
#120
They weren't parked at DFW:
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...ounded-planes/
Have you visited any of those airports and seen the aircraft parked?
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...ounded-planes/
Have you visited any of those airports and seen the aircraft parked?