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uxb Oct 6, 2011 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by 2millionquest (Post 17232310)
Nobody seems to have commented on a sentence i noticed in today's MM e-mail we all seem to have gotten, to wit:

"All of your Program to Date AAdvantage miles earned so far as well as any AAdvantage miles posted between now and November 30, 2011, will count toward the new Million Miler program."

This sentence appears to address the question several of us have discussed here on FT, which is whether miles that post after 12/1 but are backdated to a date prior to 12/1 will count. The way I read the e-mail, backdated miles will not count in the MM total. If they're not there on 12/1, they don't count. Anybody else read it differently?

What E-mail? I didn't get an E-mail. Oh well. It doesn't matter to me. 30 November... 1 December... bottom line is that I will have another 18 years before I get to 2MM (assuming AAdvantage doesn't switch to AAvios in that same time frame).

2millionquest Oct 6, 2011 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by uxb (Post 17232462)
What E-mail? I didn't get an E-mail. Oh well. It doesn't matter to me. 30 November... 1 December... bottom line is that I will have another 18 years before I get to 2MM (assuming AAdvantage doesn't switch to AAvios in that same time frame).

Based on other posts in this thread and my own experience, I thought everyone with MM status got the e-mail. Not sure why you didn't. Anyway, though, it was just basically another announcement about the new MM program, with language assuring people with MM status that they would retain it at their current level, and with the difference of the addition of that one sentence I quoted in my previous post. Your profile appears to indicate that you are LT GLD so I would have thought you would have received it. Hmmmm ...

uxb Oct 6, 2011 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by 2millionquest (Post 17232491)
Based on other posts in this thread and my own experience, I thought everyone with MM status got the e-mail. Not sure why you didn't. Anyway, though, it was just basically another announcement about the new MM program, with language assuring people with MM status that they would retain it at their current level, and with the difference of the addition of that one sentence I quoted in my previous post. Your profile appears to indicate that you are LT GLD so I would have thought you would have received it. Hmmmm ...

You mean the announcement from a month ago??? People were making it like there was another e-mail announcing the change.

2millionquest Oct 6, 2011 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by uxb (Post 17232579)
You mean the announcement from a month ago??? People were making it like there was another e-mail announcing the change.

No, I'm not talking about the one from a month ago. There was a second announcement e-mail. Mine came at 10:09 this morning.

uxb Oct 6, 2011 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by 2millionquest (Post 17232633)
No, I'm not talking about the one from a month ago. There was a second announcement e-mail. Mine came at 10:09 this morning.

Ok. So yeah... Didn't get it. Oh well.

ILuvParis Oct 7, 2011 12:43 am


Originally Posted by 2millionquest (Post 17232310)
Nobody seems to have commented on a sentence i noticed in today's MM e-mail we all seem to have gotten, to wit:

"All of your Program to Date AAdvantage miles earned so far as well as any AAdvantage miles posted between now and November 30, 2011, will count toward the new Million Miler program."

This sentence appears to address the question several of us have discussed here on FT, which is whether miles that post after 12/1 but are backdated to a date prior to 12/1 will count. The way I read the e-mail, backdated miles will not count in the MM total. If they're not there on 12/1, they don't count. Anybody else read it differently?

You could be right, but I still don't think so, despite that language. It would be far too difficult for them to manage. I remain convinced that the date the mileage is earned will be the "posting date." For example, if you look at your AAdvantage eShopping Mall Account Summary and you have made any purchases recently, you will see a list of transaction dates and posting dates, but the status of some of those miles is in some cases "confirmed" and in some cases "pending." When those purchases are confirmed, the PURCHASE date in the summary is the date listed on the AAdvantage summary, not the posted date from the mall. Dining miles are listed on the AAdvantage summary as the date you dine. Similarly, do you think if you fly on November 30, you will only get BIS miles because the miles don't appear in you account until December 1 or later?

If they only count what is listed as of November 30, they will have a nightmare on their hands, with potentially thousands of people complaining and saying that they have all kinds of miles "posted" on dates prior to November 30 that weren't counted. It would just be way too confusing for everyone involved.

reubergd Oct 7, 2011 1:48 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 17234092)
I remain convinced that the date the mileage is earned will be the "posting date."

I agree with you that makes more sense in this case. Is there any way we can confirm this ? Has anyone called AA and asked about that ?

travelkid Oct 7, 2011 4:56 am


Originally Posted by reubergd (Post 17234214)
I agree with you that makes more sense in this case. Is there any way we can confirm this ? Has anyone called AA and asked about that ?

I agree too. Thats how retro credit of miles concerning status normally works.

At least with my current *A gold card.

travelkid Oct 7, 2011 5:02 am

I have a few hundred K Wyndham, and expecting another 4-500k posting this month. We know that these easily transfer- and rather quickly- to anyones AA. Im probably not running for LT as I will be too far from the worthy LT plat.

I plan to offer these all on CC.

Question is the value? Lets say if previous deals have valued 1MR=1AA, but thats RDMs booked on someones behalf. If I just want the miles hassle free I just transfer to myself. In this case I also offer (LT-) EQMs. How much higher should the ratio be? If I only want the RDMs and have no hurry I could wait for the next potential 35% transfer promo.

So what premium should there be for the average trader?

2millionquest Oct 7, 2011 7:43 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 17234092)
You could be right, but I still don't think so, despite that language. It would be far too difficult for them to manage. I remain convinced that the date the mileage is earned will be the "posting date." For example, if you look at your AAdvantage eShopping Mall Account Summary and you have made any purchases recently, you will see a list of transaction dates and posting dates, but the status of some of those miles is in some cases "confirmed" and in some cases "pending." When those purchases are confirmed, the PURCHASE date in the summary is the date listed on the AAdvantage summary, not the posted date from the mall. Dining miles are listed on the AAdvantage summary as the date you dine. Similarly, do you think if you fly on November 30, you will only get BIS miles because the miles don't appear in you account until December 1 or later?

If they only count what is listed as of November 30, they will have a nightmare on their hands, with potentially thousands of people complaining and saying that they have all kinds of miles "posted" on dates prior to November 30 that weren't counted. It would just be way too confusing for everyone involved.

Well, again, I hope you're right on this one and I'm wrong, but I think that it would actually be easier for AA to just freeze the MM counter effective 1 Dec, so to speak. I actually think it would be more difficult the way you laid it out. Having to adjust MM counters on a case-by-case basis would involve a lot of work, and we all know AA's IT isn't the most robust. Then again, setting up the counter to count miles earned via the new Executive MC (or whatever it's called) is a factor that bolsters your scenario better than mine. So who knows?

As usual, I guess this is another wait-and-see situation! :D

Phasers Oct 7, 2011 7:50 am


Originally Posted by travelkid (Post 17234652)
I have a few hundred K Wyndham, and expecting another 4-500k posting this month. We know that these easily transfer- and rather quickly- to anyones AA. Im probably not running for LT as I will be too far from the worthy LT plat.

I plan to offer these all on CC.

Question is the value? Lets say if previous deals have valued 1MR=1AA, but thats RDMs booked on someones behalf. If I just want the miles hassle free I just transfer to myself. In this case I also offer (LT-) EQMs. How much higher should the ratio be? If I only want the RDMs and have no hurry I could wait for the next potential 35% transfer promo.

So what premium should there be for the average trader?

800k Wyndham Points is 320K AA miles. How far are you exactly from LT Plat?

Also, PM me, I may be interested.

BlissWorld Oct 7, 2011 8:55 am


Originally Posted by travelkid (Post 17234652)
I have a few hundred K Wyndham, and expecting another 4-500k posting this month...

How in the world are you getting 400-500k to post per month? :eek:

ExitRowAisle Oct 7, 2011 9:13 am

I haven't seen anything from AA to imply that late-posted activity will count toward MM status after 12/1/11. They have had opportunities to address the matter specifically on FT and have chosen not to.

As to what would be easier to manage, it seems to me that it would be rather easy to make 12/1 a drop-dead date for MM status -- just run the monthly close in the early morning hours on 12/1 to set the MM balance. I'm no IT expert, but that seems to be rather straight forward.

gotmiles? Oct 7, 2011 9:33 am

to date miles
 
This topic was covered on the milepoint forum:


All Program to Date miles earned through November 30, 2011, will count toward Million Miler status. Any mileage credit posted to your account with a Transaction Date on or before November 30, 2011 will count toward Million Miler status regardless of when it is credited to your account. Please be aware, however, that the mileage credit Transaction Date will not always match the day you initiated a mileage-earning activity – such as a credit-card purchase. With AAdvantage eShopping, for example, the date will vary by merchant and may reflect the purchase date, shipping date, or the date the miles are credited. Such variations are one of the reasons why we gave members more than 90 days to maximize their Program to Date mileage prior to December 1, 2011.
http://milepoint.com/forums/threads/...-9#post-806579

travelkid Oct 7, 2011 10:02 am


Originally Posted by Phasers (Post 17235260)
800k Wyndham Points is 320K AA miles. How far are you exactly from LT Plat?

Too far from LT plat do make a run.


Originally Posted by BlissWorld (Post 17235539)
How in the world are you getting 400-500k to post per month? :eek:

Great promos both summer and fall promo, and they doubledipped for a period:D Not to forget multiple family accts@:-)


Originally Posted by gotmiles? (Post 17235749)
This topic was covered on the milepoint forum:

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Great. That means any of my Wyndham transfers initiated by late Nov will count.


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