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Xerxes_Ren May 20, 2019 9:50 am

I purchased a Premium Economy (Class W) ticket on American Airlines for my flight to HKG from PHX. I have requested an upgrade for my AA Legs (PHX-LAX-NRT.) However, the last leg of my flight (NRT-HKG) is operated by CX and has me in Regular Economy! Is there any way, anyway at all other than paying to upgrade my entire itinerary that I can purchase or upgrade with miles just that CX leg to Business class?

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George May 20, 2019 9:55 am

[QUOTE=Antarius;31117699]There is no premium economy on LAX-JFK :confused:[/QUOTE

On the MIA/LAX 77W flight like all domestic flights PE is sold as Y to PLT and above (GLD at T-24), full fares and probably a few BEs that get lucky.

econometrics May 20, 2019 11:37 am


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31119884)
I purchased a Premium Economy (Class W) ticket on American Airlines for my flight to HKG from PHX. I have requested an upgrade for my AA Legs (PHX-LAX-NRT.) However, the last leg of my flight (NRT-HKG) is operated by CX and has me in Regular Economy! Is there any way, anyway at all other than paying to upgrade my entire itinerary that I can purchase or upgrade with miles just that CX leg to Business class?

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Not really, no. When you arrive in NRT to go to HKG, you can ask about a cash upgrade to J at the counter. That's about it.

Gabrca May 20, 2019 4:19 pm

Hi all, flying LAX-NRT this Thursday with a companion. 5 seats currently for sale in J. EXP with $35k rolling spend. What do you think the odds of clearing are?

Thanks!

Antarius May 20, 2019 4:45 pm


Originally Posted by Gabrca (Post 31121220)
Hi all, flying LAX-NRT this Thursday with a companion. 5 seats currently for sale in J. EXP with $35k rolling spend. What do you think the odds of clearing are?

Thanks!

I'd say pretty good. But that's just based on my experience.

econometrics May 20, 2019 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 31121284)
I'd say pretty good. But that's just based on my experience.

I agree. High probability.

randyr6 May 21, 2019 11:33 am

If EF is showing C-2, should I be calling American to process my upgrade? Or is that only whenI am using miles for the upgrade?

DMPHL May 21, 2019 11:35 am


Originally Posted by randyr6 (Post 31124150)
If EF is showing C-2, should I be calling American to process my upgrade? Or is that only whenI am using miles for the upgrade?

If you are using any upgrade instrument (SWU, Miles, BXP1, etc.), I would call to have them process the upgrade. If you are talking about regular 500-mile upgrades, that does not clear into C.

randyr6 May 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Given my lowly status, would one recommend that I upgrade using miles plus cash? Thank you.

metallo May 21, 2019 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by randyr6 (Post 31124960)
Given my lowly status, would one recommend that I upgrade using cash plus points? Thank you.

Yes, since there's 'C' space, it would be highly recommended, especially as a GLD, to lock in the upgrade with 15k miles + $75 on this route. You'll be behind CK, EXP, PPRO, and PLTs for complimentary/500 mile upgrades. Also, since the flight length is ~2500 miles, this will cost you 5 upgrades ($40x5) as a GLD if it eventually clears, which is far from a guarantee. If it were actually free, it might be worth holding out, but you'll be paying one way or the other for your upgrades as GLD, with the exception of the "free" 500 mile upgrade coupons you earn every 12,500 miles.

The other advantages of locking in the Biz seat early are pre-departure Flagship lounge access, the ability to select your preferred seat, and the opportunity to choose your meal online up until 24 hours before the flight.

FlyinMike May 22, 2019 12:50 pm

What's going on here - PHX-EWR on 6/16
 
I waitlisted for miles+copay upgrade a month ago when I bought this ticket (return cleared right away as there was C space). Strange thing is that EF shows C7, but the price in F is nearly 3x the other flights for the day (they are showing $540). AA won't tell me if others are on the wait list, and I know if I get to the 100 hour mark, then I'm sunk. Seat map shows 7 seats open vs 9 a month ago when I booked. Not seen any C space open for any of the flights save the red eye. So my questions:

1) Why is this flight priced nearly 3x higher than the others in F when there's still J7 (seems as though AA is trying NOT to sell these seats)?
2) Will AA tell me if there are others waitlisted, or is this just not something they do?
3) Any guesses on odds they will open C space prior to T-100 (when my chances go from slim to absolutely none)?


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econometrics May 22, 2019 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by FlyinMike (Post 31128253)
1) Why is this flight priced nearly 3x higher than the others in F when there's still J7 (seems as though AA is trying NOT to sell these seats)?
2) Will AA tell me if there are others waitlisted, or is this just not something they do?
3) Any guesses on odds they will open C space prior to T-100 (when my chances go from slim to absolutely none)?

1. Only God and AA rev mgmt know
2. No they will not
3. I'm not familiar with that routing, but being ex-AA hub, probably low is my guess

Xerxes_Ren May 22, 2019 3:17 pm

Ive been monitoring ExpertFlyer for J class availability for an upgrade. J-Class availability went from J7 to J0 in less than 1 hour but it still shows 10 unassigned seats. With PE having a W5 availability but showing no seats available in the seat map. Has anyone ever seen this before? And does this mean my chances for an upgrade are now gone?

Flight: AA 169
LAX-NRT
Date: May 24th

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

econometrics May 22, 2019 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31128704)
Ive been monitoring ExpertFlyer for J class availability for an upgrade. J-Class availability went from J7 to J0 in less than 1 hour but it still shows 10 unassigned seats. With PE having a W5 availability but showing no seats available in the seat map. Has anyone ever seen this before? And does this mean my chances for an upgrade are now gone?

Flight: AA 169
LAX-NRT
Date: May 24th

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

There are 9 unassigned seats. I'm not sure what is happening here, but similar things have happened on some of my flights to / from LHR in the past 8 months. Watch T24, as my guess some of those seats will go on sale again. Just my guess from experience.

Your upgrade chances are not completely shot here. I still think there's a decent chance to get upgraded.

Xerxes_Ren May 22, 2019 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 31128716)
There are 9 unassigned seats. I'm not sure what is happening here, but similar things have happened on some of my flights to / from LHR in the past 8 months. Watch T24, as my guess some of those seats will go on sale again. Just my guess from experience.

Your upgrade chances are not completely shot here. I still think there's a decent chance to get upgraded.

Thanks for the reply. I hope you're right. I'm thinking they may have over-sold PE. I hold a W-Class ticket currently and perhaps that will help my chances of upgrade.

Thanks Again!


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