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econometrics May 22, 2019 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31128752)
I hold a W-Class ticket currently and perhaps that will help my chances of upgrade.

YW.

As much as you would think a W fare would help your upgrade chances, it doesn't currently. (unless it's a very unusual circumstance) It's all about your rolling elite qualifying dollar spend and elite status.

But yeah, I've seen quite a few flights go J0 for a few weeks leading up to departure, then go J7 within 36-24 hours out. Strange.

Xerxes_Ren May 22, 2019 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 31128773)
YW.

As much as you would think a W fare would help your upgrade chances, it doesn't currently. (unless it's a very unusual circumstance) It's all about your rolling elite qualifying dollar spend and elite status.

But yeah, I've seen quite a few flights go J0 for a few weeks leading up to departure, then go J7 within 36-24 hours out. Strange.

I see. When you say "rolling EQDs" does that mean the total Elite Qualifying dollars I have to-date? Or something else?

I am AA EXP with 15,100 EQD's . . not sure if thats low or not. . .

Thanks!

econometrics May 22, 2019 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31128781)
I see. When you say "rolling EQDs" does that mean the total Elite Qualifying dollars I have to-date? Or something else?

I am AA EXP with 15,100 EQD's . . not sure if thats low or not. . .

Thanks!

Correct, basically. AA prioritizes you on the upgrade list by status level first (CK, EXP, PPRO, etc.) then by your 12-month rolling EQD spend. In your case, this will be your EQD amount from May 24, 2018 to May 24, 2019.

$15K EQD is probably median range for EXP this year. However, that will be the lower end with the new $15K spend requirements. I think being at $20K+ puts you above average.

Xerxes_Ren May 22, 2019 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 31128789)
Correct, basically. AA prioritizes you on the upgrade list by status level first (CK, EXP, PPRO, etc.) then by your 12-month rolling EQD spend. In your case, this will be your EQD amount from May 24, 2018 to May 24, 2019.

$15K EQD is probably median range for EXP this year. However, that will be the lower end with the new $15K spend requirements. I think being at $20K+ puts you above average.

If that total is indeed from May 24th 2018 - May 24th 2019, then my EQD is much higher. I have 15,241 (just looked) just for this calendar year. I was PPRO at the end of 2018 and I am almost certain I was over 20K EQD's. Is there a way I can see what my EQDs are for a given time period?

Thanks!

Jason

econometrics May 22, 2019 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31128802)
Is there a way I can see what my EQDs are for a given time period?

Unfortunately, no. It has to be personally calculated by you.

If you're north of $20K rolling EQD, I think you're likely to get a J seat on this flight.

Xerxes_Ren May 22, 2019 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 31128811)
Unfortunately, no. It has to be personally calculated by you.

If you're north of $20K rolling EQD, I think you're likely to get a J seat on this flight.

Using the AA Activity log on the website, I calculate my rolling EQD's are 23,913.

I will hope for the best. . .

Thanks for all your help clarifying this process for me. You're fantastic!

econometrics May 22, 2019 4:13 pm


Originally Posted by Xerxes_Ren (Post 31128844)
Using the AA Activity log on the website, I calculate my rolling EQD's are 23,913.

I will hope for the best. . .

Thanks for all your help clarifying this process for me. You're fantastic!

^ Write back and let us know if you clear the upgrade. I'm interested to see, as a sudden J0 with 9-10 open seats is sorta strange.

T. Sanderson May 22, 2019 6:00 pm

First try for using SWU on an international flight: DFW-ICN (AA 281) on 5/24. I’m starting to sweat it. Anyone have experience or insight on this flight?

Thanks!

Tbooth3 May 22, 2019 7:59 pm

Some data points over the last few weeks as a PP on domestic flights.

5/7- DCA-LGA: cleared at 72
5/8- LGA-DCA: cleared at 72 for original flight, SDFC and was #2, but didn’t clear.

5/13 - LGA-DFW-COS: #8 and #5 respectively.
5/17 - COS-ORD-DCA: #2 and cleared at the gate (regional aircraft) and did not clear as #6 from ORD (we had mechanical issues anyways and took another flight).

5/20 - DCA-CLT-GNV: #6 on first leg and cleared 2nd at 72 hours

5/22 - GNV-CLT-DCA: Changed this flight on 5/21. Confirmed on 1st leg about 3 hours after booking and on CLT-DCA at 4 hours from departure.

Upgrades continue to clear on regional flights that don’t involve DFW, and CLT-DCA at non-peak times.

econometrics May 22, 2019 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by T. Sanderson (Post 31129124)
First try for using SWU on an international flight: DFW-ICN (AA 281) on 5/24. I’m starting to sweat it. Anyone have experience or insight on this flight?

Thanks!

Currently showing no biz seats for sale, but 8 unassigned (open) seats. Sometimes AA seems to block out J seats for sale on this flight, then release a dump of them 24 hours or so before departure.

So, not looking good right now. But that couple possibly change. Keep an eye on it.

saleen22 May 22, 2019 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by T. Sanderson https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif
First try for using SWU on an international flight: DFW-ICN (AA 281) on 5/24. I’m starting to sweat it. Anyone have experience or insight on this flight?

Thanks!
Let us know if your upgrade clears. I'm on the same route on 5/29 and there are 5 unassigned seats but J3 as of now. Haven't seen any C inventory open up in weeks. Talked to a friend of mine who said this is a pretty tough one to upgrade on.

cascade May 23, 2019 8:28 am

Had a question I couldn't find in searches, maybe issue is that I didn't know how to properly phrase the key words. On a 787 with Business, Premium Economy, and Main Cabin, if I purchase a revenue ticket in the Premium Economy cabin and put myself on the upgrade list using miles as a lowly Platinum, will I be ahead of Executive Platinums who are in Main Cabin since I purchased a Premium Economy seat?

flyingeph12 May 23, 2019 8:48 am


Originally Posted by cascade (Post 31130775)
Had a question I couldn't find in searches, maybe issue is that I didn't know how to properly phrase the key words. On a 787 with Business, Premium Economy, and Main Cabin, if I purchase a revenue ticket in the Premium Economy cabin and put myself on the upgrade list using miles as a lowly Platinum, will I be ahead of Executive Platinums who are in Main Cabin since I purchased a Premium Economy seat?

No. Upgrade priority is based on elite status and then rolling EQD.

cascade May 23, 2019 8:58 am


Originally Posted by flyingeph12 (Post 31130834)

No. Upgrade priority is based on elite status and then rolling EQD.

Seems a little crazy to me that upgrade cost and priority is the same regardless of Premium Economy and Main Cabin considering Premium Economy is more than double the cost...I guess it is what it is

flyingeph12 May 23, 2019 9:21 am


Originally Posted by cascade (Post 31130860)
Seems a little crazy to me that upgrade cost and priority is the same regardless of Premium Economy and Main Cabin considering Premium Economy is more than double the cost...I guess it is what it is

I don’t expect the ability to upgrade from economy to business (i.e., skipping premium economy) will stick around. Additionally, even within economy, I am sure there are those who pay much more than others, but booking class is only used to break EQD ties. Ultimately, AA has chosen to reward long-time spend over immediate spend—although this is not the only option and is not what every airline does, I wouldn’t say it’s “crazy.”


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