FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   American Airlines | AAdvantage (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage-733/)
-   -   Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes and effects on AA 737 MAX 8s (NOT reaccommodation) (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1939333-boeing-737-max-8-crashes-effects-aa-737-max-8s-not-reaccommodation.html)

Nuhusky Dec 13, 19 2:51 pm

I’m leaving aa for delta. Not going to lie, delta not flying the max was a pro when I did a pro con list

enpremiere Dec 13, 19 3:09 pm

The re-introduction to service will no doubt be accompanied by a slew of marketing efforts focused on safety, quality commitment, and flight deck training.

If they're clever, AA won't harp too much on which routes they're throwing it on since the average consumer will have hopefully either forgotten or won't have a clue.

teemuflyer Dec 13, 19 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by enpremiere (Post 31837274)
The re-introduction to service will no doubt be accompanied by a slew of marketing efforts focused on safety, quality commitment, and flight deck training.

If they're clever, AA won't harp too much on which routes they're throwing it on since the average consumer will have hopefully either forgotten or won't have a clue.

Not OASIS? :rolleyes:

Nuhusky Dec 13, 19 6:20 pm

The joys of AA. Come fly the max, and oh by the way enjoy our no leg room but def superior interior Courtesy of project oasis

have fun with that

cmd320 Dec 13, 19 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by Nuhusky (Post 31837825)
The joys of AA. Come fly the max, and oh by the way enjoy our no leg room but def superior interior Courtesy of project oasis

have fun with that

And then of course the opportunity for some zero G experience followed by immediate death.

Yeah, hard pass on the MAX. Not flying on one in my life.

serfty Dec 15, 19 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge (Post 31836064)
You have to wonder what is really going on. I constantly read reports that the FAA is getting close to re-certifying the a/c and then suddenly it's back in limbo. Seems as though there's more going on than meets the eye. I have to wonder will this plane every fly again?

I suspect that Boeing are trying extremely hard to have conversion certification via tablet and avoid the need for full Pilot Simulator Training.

In my reading this month, it seems those pilots involved in recent simulation tests of the changes are not responding in the ways Boeing would prefer.

cmd320 Dec 15, 19 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 31842689)
I suspect that Boeing are trying extremely hard to have conversion certification via tablet and avoid the need for full Pilot Simulator Training.

In my reading this month, it seems those pilots involved in recent simulation tests of the changes are not responding in the ways Boeing would prefer.

One would think Boeing should have learned its lesson by now and should be willing to go above and beyond in fully retraining crews and re-certifying the aircraft. The fact that they’re *still* dragging their feet and trying to save money is quite troubling and speaks to the current culture at Boeing.

spongenotbob Dec 15, 19 6:31 pm

WSJ reports Boeing considering “pausing” MAX production:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-...on-11576448990

AeRoSpaceman Dec 15, 19 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by spongenotbob (Post 31843415)
WSJ reports Boeing considering “pausing” MAX production:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-...on-11576448990

Since the WSJ is behind a paywall here is the CNBC article that sums it up.

hhdl Dec 16, 19 11:04 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 31836799)
I'll be willing to fly it 2 years after it returns to service, myself. But, until then, I will go out of way to avoid the MAX. My sense is that airlines have also figured that a lot of their customers --even infrequent flyers, who usually have no clue at all about what type of plane the're on-- are intent upon staying clear. These sentiments, whether or not rationally justified, will have a significant impact on the marketability of MAX (to both airlines, and passengers).

Would honestly not surprise me if a non-trivial number of businesses are telling Concur/CWT/etc. to not show itineraries with segments on the MAX. It also would not surprise me if AA's been told by some corporations that renewal of travel contracts will be tied to the ability to guarantee that their employees won't be flying on MAXs until the type has a couple of years in service without an incident globally, in which case I'd expect the MAXs to be kept on leisure-heavy routes for months after return to service.

bchandler02 Dec 16, 19 1:17 pm

At this point, I am starting to wonder (while probably highly unlikely) - what if the MAX doesn't get approved to come back into service?

alien Dec 16, 19 3:30 pm

I overheard a couple of AA pilots chatting on a hotel shuttle at DFW a couple of days ago. One said he heard they may do something with the pylons and turn them back to 737-800's.
Disclaimer: I know not of what I speak in this matter.....

enpremiere Dec 16, 19 5:41 pm

As of today, new production has been suspended (although WIP may still finish; unclear at the moment) with some discussion that viable certification may not occur until year-end.

enpremiere Dec 16, 19 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by spongenotbob (Post 31843415)
WSJ reports Boeing considering “pausing” MAX production:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-...on-11576448990


Originally Posted by AeRoSpaceman (Post 31843753)
Since the WSJ is behind a paywall here is the CNBC article that sums it up.

Sure enough the whispers became true.

DenverBrian Dec 16, 19 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by enpremiere (Post 31847040)
Sure enough the whispers became true.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/busin...ion/index.html

Stock down 4%.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 2:04 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.