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Originally Posted by bchandler02
(Post 31986249)
I really have to wonder - what if the MAX doesnt make it back in the air ever? Is Boeing just out for what they have built, or could they convert them to 737-800s and at least recover some loss?
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Why scrapped? Isn’t the MAX just a 737 with bigger engines that are mounted a bit higher?
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian
(Post 31986596)
Maybe the MAXes could be converted to fire tankers or something. Donate them to organizations worldwide. Restart the -800 line.
Very few good options for Boeing at this point. But they made their bed... |
Originally Posted by QtownDave
(Post 31987466)
Why scrapped? Isn’t the MAX just a 737 with bigger engines that are mounted a bit higher?
If one of FAA/CAA/EASA de-certifies the type, it can't fly in that jurisdiction. If any one of those authorities (and others eg China's, Australia's) say no go, might as well pack it in. Converting them to cargo planes might be an option, assuming MCAS is disabled. Finding pilots willing to fly them might be an issue! I don't know if cargo vs pax versions have to use the same certification or not. |
Originally Posted by born sleepy
(Post 31987516)
This is the lie Boeing used to sell the MAX to existing NG operators. Heeyyy, just watch a short video on yer ipad, then you're good to go, 737NG jock! What? MCAS? Oh never mind you about that.
If one of FAA/CAA/EASA de-certifies the type, it can't fly in that jurisdiction. If any one of those authorities (and others eg China's, Australia's) say no go, might as well pack it in. Converting them to cargo planes might be an option, assuming MCAS is disabled. Finding pilots willing to fly them might be an issue! I don't know if cargo vs pax versions have to use the same certification or not. Hypothetically, let’s say that for whatever reason the MAX can’t be fixed. Converting to cargo makes zero sense but instead of scrapping why can’t they change the engines to something smaller that won’t need a MCAS system? Other than mainly the engines, how different is it from the other versions? |
Originally Posted by nk15
(Post 31987514)
Maybe convert them to cargo planes?
Originally Posted by QtownDave
(Post 31987637)
Not really what I’m talking about at all
Hypothetically, let’s say that for whatever reason the MAX can’t be fixed. Converting to cargo makes zero sense but instead of scrapping why can’t they change the engines to something smaller that won’t need a MCAS system? Other than mainly the engines, how different is it from the other versions? A Boeing insider would be better equipped to detail the finer differences between the frames aside from the engines. Visually all I can see is that the butt end of the fuselage is pointy vs blunted, probably not important. |
So, then Boeing won't have a competitive plane for the 320/737 market, they should focus on their remaining lines, and start designing a new one for that category.
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The B737 Max will fly and take passengers again. If it was a no go - we would have heard by now.
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It will certainly fly again. Whether any passengers are willing to board is another question. There will certainly be some very inexpensive fares when they start flying.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1ZN2DS
FAA tells U.S. airlines it could approve MAX return to service before mid-year -sources |
Or not.
Engineers at Boeing have discovered a new software issue with the 737 Max plane, which has been grounded worldwide for almost a year over technical issues. The new problem, first reported by Bloomberg News, involves the trim system, which regulates whether the nose of the aircraft is pointed up or down. A light for the trim system wasn’t going off when it should, according to the company.“During flight testing of the 737 MAX’s updated software, an indicator light associated with the stabilizer trim system illuminated in the flight deck,” a Boeing spokesperson told Gizmodo via email. “We determined that the illumination of this light was caused by differences in input data between the flight control computers (FCC). This is a result of the FCC cross compare redundancy software update issued in June 2019.” — Gizmodo, 6 Feb 2020 |
Oh great, another software glitch:Boeing Co. has discovered a new software problem on the grounded 737 Max, but the company said the flaw won’t set back the goal of returning the plane to service in mid-2020.
The planemaker identified the issue during flight testing and notified the Federal Aviation Administration last month, according to an email Thursday from Boeing. The problem was that an indicator light, designed to warn of a malfunction by a system that helps raise and lower the plane’s nose, was turning on when it wasn’t supposed to, the company said. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ed-737-max-jet |
Originally Posted by JDiver
(Post 32041071)
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More accusations of Boeing, this time for the NG, but somewhat related to the MAX.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=primedhp |
Good news! Boeing 737 set re-certification flight within a weeks.
https://www.ft.com/content/aea7c2e6-...3-955839e06441 Boeing’s troubled 737 Max is expected to achieve a “significant milestone” by making its certification flight in the next few weeks, the US aviation safety regulator said on Thursday. Stephen Dickson, head of the Federal Aviation Administration, signalled that the 737 Max could soon return to the skies despite a new software issue concerning a dysfunctional warning light in the cockpit. There were “possible adjustments” to the warning light but the safety chief insisted there would not be “a significant delay” in returning the plane to service. |
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