May 8, 2016, 11:02 pm
MIA-LAX 77W / 777-300ER rotation - and service etc. discussion
Oct 10, 2017, 3:06 pm
#271
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It would appear based on recent schedule/equipment changes that effective Oct 29th AA is discontinuing MIA-LAX and LAX-MIA Flagship First/3 Cabin service which was served by at least one flight a day on the 77W. Historically there used to be at least one flight a day in each direction between Miami and Los Angeles where AA sold true "F" Flagship First service on a 3 Cabin aircraft. Most recently those were the following flights:
AA275 MIA - LAX
AA1088 LAX - MIA
There used to be even more than one flight a day in each direction but over the past several months that had shrunk down to just one daily flight each way. It does look like a widebody 772 comes back to the route in the spring but only for a month or so (probably for spring break) and regardless a 772 is not a Flagship First capable plane as it only is two cabin.
Any one know if there has been any official announcement or communication from AA? When I contacted our AA corporate Airpass rep they were clueless to the change.
I wonder if simple schedule rotation resulted in this change or if they don't see MIA-LAX and vice versa as a profitable Flagship First route. As a corporate travel coordinator this is a loss. We often have the choice of booking AA commercial flights vs private flights operated Citation X or Falcon 50. Many times our executives would actually prefer the AA Flagship first over the private jet as the privates almost never had comfortable lay flat accommodations such as the F seat in the 77W. I wonder if services such as JetSmarter were a factor as they now offer mainstream private flights between Miami and Los Angeles for about the same (or less) cost per seat as what the AA Flagship First seat costs.
AA275 MIA - LAX
AA1088 LAX - MIA
There used to be even more than one flight a day in each direction but over the past several months that had shrunk down to just one daily flight each way. It does look like a widebody 772 comes back to the route in the spring but only for a month or so (probably for spring break) and regardless a 772 is not a Flagship First capable plane as it only is two cabin.
Any one know if there has been any official announcement or communication from AA? When I contacted our AA corporate Airpass rep they were clueless to the change.
I wonder if simple schedule rotation resulted in this change or if they don't see MIA-LAX and vice versa as a profitable Flagship First route. As a corporate travel coordinator this is a loss. We often have the choice of booking AA commercial flights vs private flights operated Citation X or Falcon 50. Many times our executives would actually prefer the AA Flagship first over the private jet as the privates almost never had comfortable lay flat accommodations such as the F seat in the 77W. I wonder if services such as JetSmarter were a factor as they now offer mainstream private flights between Miami and Los Angeles for about the same (or less) cost per seat as what the AA Flagship First seat costs.
Oct 10, 2017, 6:30 pm
#272
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It's less than ideal, but it looks like you can book LAX-CLT-MIA or LAX-DFW-MIA where the CLT-MIA segment (AA 2529) or DFW-MIA segment (AA 339) is lieflat on a 767. Very much less than ideal.
Oct 10, 2017, 9:48 pm
#273
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Also an option to take a 789 lax-dfw connecting to a a321. Since that flight is new it had some confirmable upgrade space at time if booking so I decided to try that then one of the 321s all the way
Oct 12, 2017, 2:51 pm
#274
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It looks like the 772 has 20 fewer biz seats than the 77W's number of combined biz/1st seats, so upgradeability will really suck even if they do eventually make the 772 a permanent replacement for the LAX-MIA 77W.
Oct 12, 2017, 9:44 pm
#275
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The 773 has 52 J seats and 8 F FlagShip Suites.
Oct 15, 2017, 9:13 pm
#278
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Confirming the "sadness". Two mileage runs to SJU from LAX planned in January, and the return on AA275 was in J on a lie-flat in the mini-cabin.
Flying the 77W transcontinental was wonderful while it lasted. Time to seek out the next "gem".
Oct 15, 2017, 10:49 pm
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Oct 16, 2017, 8:38 pm
#281
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Lounge access doesn't change. 2-class MIA-LAX passengers have AC access today and will continue to.
Oct 16, 2017, 8:48 pm
#282
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Oct 17, 2017, 7:02 am
#283
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Requirement changed somewhat recently:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28683949-post586.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28683949-post586.html
Oct 17, 2017, 9:58 am
#284
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Oct 17, 2017, 4:48 pm
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