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JFK / John F. Kennedy International Airport Concourse B Flagship Lounge
Flagship Lounge is within Terminal 8 Concourse B Admirals Cub
Link to JFK Flagship Dining reviews thread.

Link to aa.com information for JFK.

Link to JFK website.

LOCATION: Airside beyond the Security checkpoint, Mezzanine level. Request proximity card from agent for access.

NOTE: The renovated Lounge has now reopened as the "Flagship Lounge" (having temporarily operated as "International First Class Lounge"). See below for detailed access rules. Qualifying oneworld First Class and Business Class flyers and Emerald and Sapphire members bring one guest to the Flagship Lounge.

Only qualifying AA Flagship First flyers have access to Flagship First Dining. One guest permitted for international flyers, no guest for transcon flyers.

HOURS: For current hours, see here.

AMENITIES:
  • Flat screen TVs
    • Private shower suites (shared with adjacent Admirals Club)
      • Premium liquor, beer and wine
        • Meal service throughout the day
          • Computers with Internet access


FULL Flagship Lounge ACCESS RULES (Link)
FULL Flagship First Dining ACCESS RULES (Link)

Complimentary access to the Flagship Lounge is offered if you are:
  • Traveling First Class or Business Class on an American Airlines marketed and operated international* flight. Lounge access is also valid on a same-day itinerary that includes a qualifying international* segment
    • Traveling First Class or Business Class on an American Airlines marketed and operated three-class nonstop transcontinental flight (JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO, MIA-LAX in either direction). Lounge access is also valid on a same-day itinerary that includes a qualifying transcontinental segment
      • An American Airlines AAdvantage® Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro or Platinum customer departing on or connecting to or from an international* flight, operated and marketed by a oneworld® airline, regardless of cabin flown (as long as the next onward segment is also operated and marketed by a oneworld® airline)
        • A oneworld First Class or Business Class international* customer departing on or connecting to or from a oneworld marketed and operated flight (as long as the next onward segment is also operated and marketed by a oneworld® airline)
          • A oneworld Emerald or Sapphire elite customer** (whose Emerald or Sapphire status does not come from AA) departing on or connecting to any oneworld marketed and operated flight, regardless of cabin flown. Access is valid on a same day itinerary


Complimentary access to Flagship First Dining is only offered if you are:
  • Traveling Flagship First on an American Airlines marketed and operated international* flight. You are permitted one guest. Access is also valid on a same-day itinerary that includes a qualifying international* segment in Flagship First.
    • Traveling Flagship First on an American Airlines marketed and operated three-class nonstop transcontinental flight (JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO, MIA-LAX in either direction). No guests permitted. Access is also valid on a same-day itinerary that includes a qualifying transcontinental segment in Flagship First


*For the purpose of Flagship Lounge access, eligible international cities include flights traveling to or from Europe, Asia, Central and South America, Australia, New Zealand and Mexico City only. All other international destinations are excluded from this benefit

**American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum/Emerald/Platinum Pro/Platinum/Sapphire customers traveling on solely North American itineraries do not qualify for Flagship Lounge access. North America is defined as U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas and the Caribbean

Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access


Links to other JFK Lounges threads:

JFK / John F. Kennedy International Airport Concourse B by Gate 12 Admirals Club

JFK / John F. Kennedy International Airport Concourse C Gate C-42 Admirals Club

List of airlines using JFK Terminal 8:
airberlin
American Airlines / American Eagle
Cathay Pacific
Finnair
LAN / TAM
Qatar Airways

Eligible departing oneworld passengers may access the Admirals Clubs or Flagship Lounges, as listed above.


List of oneworld airlines using JFK Terminal 7:
Alaska
British Airways
Iberia
Qantas
Departing eligible oneworld Emerald and First Class passengers may access:

British Airways First Lounge
LOCATION: Terminal 7 Airside, turn left at the top of the escalator after departures security
HOURS: Daily: 05:00-22:00
NOTE: Access to First Lounge is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class

Departing oneworld Sapphires and Business Class passengers may access:

British Airways Galleries Lounge
LOCATION:: Terminal 7 Airside, turn left at the top of the escalator after departures security
HOURS: Daily: 05:00-22:00

Alaska Lounge

LOCATION: Terminal 7 Airside, turn left at the top of the escalator after departure security
HOURS: 05:00-20:00


List of AA partner airlines using JFK Terminal 4:
El Al
Etihad Airways


List of AA / oneworld airlines using JFK Terminal 1:
Japan Airlines Departing eligible passengers flying on Japan Airlines may access:

Air France Lounge
LOCATION: Terminal 1, after security, near Gate 1
HOURS: Daily: 06:00-02:00
NOTE: The lounge is arranged over two levels. The second floor is exclusively for the use of First Class customers, JML, JGP and oneworld Emerald members. Eligible customers will be directed to the second floor by staff at reception.
Operated by a third party. May be used only by eligible customers when travelling on: Japan Airlines


Link to Terminal 8 map on aa.com

Link to map of JFK International Airport (uses JavaScript)

Link to PDF map of JFK and immediate vicinity

Link to online / JPG map of JFK and immediate vicinity

Older posts are archived to: ARCHIVE: JFK / New York John F. Kennedy T8 Flagship Lounge / FL (consolidated)




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Old Jan 27, 2017, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
I am still a bit unclear as to how dining has changed with the lounge relaunch as all my visits since reopening were dinner time which was always better.

Could anyone give me a sense of what we can expect at lunchtime and early afternoon (12.30-3 transit)? Many thanks!!
The food offerings are essentially the same as the previous Flagship Lounge at the moment. Same range of choices, same presentation, same flatware.

The drinks selection has expanded quite a bit though.
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Originally Posted by Fraser
The food offerings are essentially the same as the previous Flagship Lounge at the moment. Same range of choices, same presentation, same flatware.

The drinks selection has expanded quite a bit though.
Thanks! Shame - I had hoped that rest of the day would have improved!
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
Thanks! Shame - I had hoped that rest of the day would have improved!
I've been in three times, the earliest being around 2.45pm up until about 7.30pm. Food offerings have been pretty much the same for those hours compared to similarly timed visits to the old FL. Mo idea if breakfast is improved.

For those with access the FL Dining is probably going to be a big step up when it opens. Given the Sapphire and Business passengers will then be able to use the FL I have slim hope Emeralds will be able to use the new dining area regardless of ticket type.
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Originally Posted by Fraser

The drinks selection has expanded quite a bit though.
Except they got rid of Sprite Zero.
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They added multiple varieties of Fever Tree (ginger ale, ginger beer, tonic water) which is a huge ^!
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I'm confused after 10 minutes of reading various threads. I am flying TAM J JFK-GIG next weekend. Do I have access to JFK flagship lounge or not?

It seems "starting in 2017" I should, but it also seems that era isn't upon us yet. Is that right?
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Originally Posted by Fraser
IGiven the Sapphire and Business passengers will then be able to use the FL I have slim hope Emeralds will be able to use the new dining area regardless of ticket type.
Must have missed this. When was this announced? The FL lounge is busy already with OWE. AA only has 2 77W flights out of JFK (8 F each) and the JFK-LAX and SFO with 10 seats each. I don't see that moving these few people to dinning area will have much impact. Are they planning to expand again the FL in JFK.

What about other OW F lounges - will J passengers and OW S be allowed - like the BA F lounge in LHR Term 5 - already packed.
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Originally Posted by italdesign
I'm confused after 10 minutes of reading various threads. I am flying TAM J JFK-GIG next weekend. Do I have access to JFK flagship lounge or not?

It seems "starting in 2017" I should, but it also seems that era isn't upon us yet. Is that right?
The rule granting business class passengers and OW Sapphires access to the FL has not gone into effect yet,

Originally Posted by cova
Must have missed this. When was this announced? The FL lounge is busy already with OWE. AA only has 2 77W flights out of JFK (8 F each) and the JFK-LAX and SFO with 10 seats each. I don't see that moving these few people to dinning area will have much impact. Are they planning to expand again the FL in JFK.

What about other OW F lounges - will J passengers and OW S be allowed - like the BA F lounge in LHR Term 5 - already packed.
The rules are not changing - only OW EMDs will continue to have access to first class lounges. FLs will simply no longer be considered 'first' class lounges.

I am not sure how AA is planning to fit all these passengers at JFK who'll have access though.
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Originally Posted by cova
Must have missed this. When was this announced? The FL lounge is busy already with OWE. AA only has 2 77W flights out of JFK (8 F each) and the JFK-LAX and SFO with 10 seats each. I don't see that moving these few people to dinning area will have much impact. Are they planning to expand again the FL in JFK.

What about other OW F lounges - will J passengers and OW S be allowed - like the BA F lounge in LHR Term 5 - already packed.
Nothing has been announced yet, but given the Flagship Lounges are soon going to be open to many more people it seems logical that the new Flagship Dining, when it opens, will be more limited in terms of access.
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Here's a good piece-- one that has the facts-- for any who might have missed it:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....class-lounges/

American is Renovating Flagship Lounges, Opening New Ones, and Adding Business Class Access

...With the opening of each renovated club, the name International First Class lounge will change back to Flagship lounge and will add access for long haul and premium transcon business class passengers. (The new Dallas, Miami, and Philadelphia clubs will open as new Flagship Lounges from day one.)

...The plan is to have tableside service of pre-flight meals at four of the Flagship lounges: New York JFK, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles, and Miami.

...[Flagship dining] is more exclusive than Flagship lounge access — while Flagship lounges expand to business class customers, Flagship dining will be for first class — so it’s being rebranded from Flagship Dining to Flagship First Dining.
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I'm sitting in the lounge now waiting to board flight to ZRH. My impression is architecturally and functionally it is a big step up. Much more open feeling with significantly more seating. The food selection feels a little less than what it was, but then again it is mid afternoon. Drink selection is good although I miss Titos and had to settle for Goose. Oh well. My only big complaint is the really really poor wi-if signal. My wife has given up trying to log in and I'm relying on my iPhone as my hotspot. If AA reads these threads I hope they take notice. Unacceptable.
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Visited the "International First" lounge this week coming in from the early flight from LHR - good looking space, but I could imagine it would be very, very crowded in the later afternoon. Did the admirals club and flagship lounge simply swap places?
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...My impression is architecturally and functionally it is a big step up. Much more open feeling with significantly more seating. The food selection feels a little less than what it was,...Drink selection is good...
I was there last week and couldn't have said it better myself.
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Originally Posted by george 3
I'm sitting in the lounge now waiting to board flight to ZRH. My impression is architecturally and functionally it is a big step up. Much more open feeling with significantly more seating. The food selection feels a little less than what it was, but then again it is mid afternoon. Drink selection is good although I miss Titos and had to settle for Goose. Oh well. My only big complaint is the really really poor wi-if signal. My wife has given up trying to log in and I'm relying on my iPhone as my hotspot. If AA reads these threads I hope they take notice. Unacceptable.
I was there too at 2:30pm-5pm and noticed the horrible wifi attempt to log in, finally I got it but it was shaky.
When entering, food-wise they had just soups n snacks, but at around 3-4pm they brought in warm food, and the salad was tasty ^and the roasted meat very good IMO while the pork meat was anywhere tasteless/bad.
Drinks I think everyone can find to their liking, plentiful.
Nice open atmosphere with views to Manhattan skyline. Did not check showers.
On a side note, my AY platinum (OWE) J ticket showed the lounge attendant as saphire (or did she try to fool me a trick to keep out) and she argued I cannot enter. Had to point out it is emerald and she did not even apologize.
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by cova
Must have missed this. When was this announced? The FL lounge is busy already with OWE. AA only has 2 77W flights out of JFK (8 F each) and the JFK-LAX and SFO with 10 seats each. I don't see that moving these few people to dinning area will have much impact. Are they planning to expand again the FL in JFK.
Yeah, I don't understand what American is doing here. The Flagship Lounge at JFK already gets pretty crowded, and this change seems to make inevitable that some of the recent improvements I've seen (quite good champagne a lot of the time!) will be rolled back.

I suppose it's nice that they have the Flagship Dining concept (although so far it sounds like the implementation is going to be more like BA's business class supper service than a proper First Class dining experience), but I don't understand why they don't want the three tiers of service that BA offers in JFK and LHR (Galleries/Galleries First/Concorde Room) if they want to introduce a high-end product for people actually flying in First. Also it just seems weird to finally introduce a product for those customers near the end of the process of tearing out most of the first class cabins. I suppose it makes sense they have this in both JFK and LAX, since there are going to be many more passengers eligible due to flying transcon than internationally.
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