Apr 8, 2014, 2:44 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
AA Increases AAnytime Award Mileage Costs / Adds Tiers [8 Apr 2014]
AA Award Changes for travel as of June 1, 2014:
http://hub.aa.com/en/nr/pressrelease...light-services
• Explorer Awards (formerly known as oneworld Awards) discontinued (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...pr-2014-a.html)
• AAnytime Awards split into Levels 1, 2, 3
• MilesSAAver Awards remain split into Levels 1 (formerly Off-peak) and Level 2 (formerly Peak)
• Link to Miles tiers and requirements for award travel through May 2014
• Link to Miles tiers and requirements for awards travel as of June 1 2014
AAnytime Award Tiers by Date (note that they vary by regions)
Green = Level 1
Yellow = Level 2
Red = Level 3
CONUS Calendar:
N. America - Hawaii Calendar:
New AAnytime rates, including current Level 3 prices (no more guessing what the * means):
Moderator Note:
We would invite members who are frustrated at this change and interested in venting, or who would like to discuss ways to communicate displeasure to the powers that be, to head to this thread:
Angry about AAdvantage devaluation / vent / what can I do? (April 2014, consolidated)
AA Increases AAnytime Award Mileage Costs / Adds Tiers [8 Apr 2014]
Apr 8, 2014, 9:27 am
#107
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: a hotel room, somewhere...
Posts: 962
Exactly - quit whining, all of you. The rules have changed - a lot, as expected. And, they will continue to change in the future, probably negatively. New AA will continue to optimize its rules and regs - including for AAdvantage -- so as to optimize their profitability. Your job is to optimize your own behavior within the constraints they provide. If you don't like it, take Amtrak.
and people don't believe Doug Parker reads FT. he's a member!
Apr 8, 2014, 9:28 am
#108
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Novum Caput Mundi
Programs: Level 5 Kayaker
Posts: 2,078
Can someone confirm whether the change involves the cut of gateway stopovers? Didn't say anywhere in AA.com
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/f...ward-chart.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/f...ward-chart.jsp
I had an award itin on hold that included a stopover at a domestic international gateway: YY-gateway-ZZ / ZZ-gateway; I live in the gateway. When I tried to purchase this morning after reading this thread, it repriced, adding 12.5K miles for the domestic leg. I called up, played dumb, and they agreed to honor the original award rate. The agent initially agreed that the original rate was correct and put me on hold. She came back and said that the award rules changed today (4/8/14), and stopovers are no longer allowed and now price as two trips, so the reprice was correct under the new rules.
Before I could start pushing back, she said that they would honor the original rate on my hold. The reservation is now in the review queue and not ticketed yet, so the issue for me isn't totally resolved.
Update: Now ticketed at the original hold rate (free stopover).
Last edited by Y_me?; Apr 8, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Apr 8, 2014, 9:29 am
#109
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
The biggest change for families in cities without international partner service is that WN and similar points have become more valuable as positioning is going from 'occasionally needed to avoid ripoff pricing' to 'usually or always needed'.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:33 am
#111
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: SJC
Programs: AA 2MM PLT, HH Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 612
It looks like premium cabin AAnytime awards have increased ~10-30% for even Level 1. If this is "inflation", is American going to also "pay" us 10-30% more miles on the flights we take??
Apr 8, 2014, 9:36 am
#113
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, AA 1MM LT GLD, SPG PLAT, National Exec Selc, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Silver
Posts: 8,278
That said, some AAnytime awards have decreased at level 1. See e.g., domestic US or US to Caribbean are down 5K and 10K at the Level 1 rate.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:38 am
#114
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA Advanatge
Posts: 474
Its worse than anyone thinks, because AAnytime awards, at least to Asia are no longer available on certain days of the week, even 8 months out. Effectively, they are making the program no better than the competition, and makes mile accumulation worthless.
I forwarded to info to our CFO......good bye Citi Adv (I was the last remaining holdout) and hello AMEX. I'm also done with loyalty to AA......I have no ill will towards them, but since I book J or F, I will simply price shop. Hence why I have mentioned in other threads my slow switch to EX and CX for Asia travel.
Cheers,
AA777
I forwarded to info to our CFO......good bye Citi Adv (I was the last remaining holdout) and hello AMEX. I'm also done with loyalty to AA......I have no ill will towards them, but since I book J or F, I will simply price shop. Hence why I have mentioned in other threads my slow switch to EX and CX for Asia travel.
Cheers,
AA777
Last edited by AA777; Apr 8, 2014 at 9:49 am
Apr 8, 2014, 9:40 am
#115
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Palm Beach/ New England
Programs: AA EXP 3MM, DL GM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,382
Have any changes been made to SWU redemption on (revenue) stopover itineraries? Specifically, multisegment flights with stopovers (up to 3) are upgraded on a single SWU.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:40 am
#116
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
A lot of seats that were at the old AAnytime level will probably be moved to Level 2. Some SAAvers will be probably be moved to AAnytime Level 1. It's a shell game.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:43 am
#117
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: los angeles, calif.
Programs: Alaska Airlines Gold MVP
Posts: 7,170
I really don't mind the new award charts. AAnytime Awards are something I would never redeem for even at the old rates, so it doesn't affect me. The loss of the stopover sucks, but so be it. Things could be a lot worse. My first class tickets to Hong Kong are still only 67.5k each way, I'm good.
I'm more concerned by the lack of notice - US Airways customers may be used to this, but I'm certainly not. Very poor show.
I'm more concerned by the lack of notice - US Airways customers may be used to this, but I'm certainly not. Very poor show.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:43 am
#119
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 2,272
Exactly - quit whining, all of you. The rules have changed - a lot, as expected. And, they will continue to change in the future, probably negatively. New AA will continue to optimize its rules and regs - including for AAdvantage -- so as to optimize their profitability. Your job is to optimize your own behavior within the constraints they provide. If you don't like it, take Amtrak.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:45 am
#120
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP/OW Emerald
Posts: 209
The repetition of twitter responses is starting to get amusing, with the two below alternating almost every other reply to someone:
"These policy changes ensure we can invest in and deliver the best possible products and services."
"These changes are based on our study of industry trends & policies of our global competitors."
"These policy changes ensure we can invest in and deliver the best possible products and services."
"These changes are based on our study of industry trends & policies of our global competitors."