Apr 8, 2014, 2:44 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
AA Increases AAnytime Award Mileage Costs / Adds Tiers [8 Apr 2014]
AA Award Changes for travel as of June 1, 2014:
http://hub.aa.com/en/nr/pressrelease...light-services
• Explorer Awards (formerly known as oneworld Awards) discontinued (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...pr-2014-a.html)
• AAnytime Awards split into Levels 1, 2, 3
• MilesSAAver Awards remain split into Levels 1 (formerly Off-peak) and Level 2 (formerly Peak)
• Link to Miles tiers and requirements for award travel through May 2014
• Link to Miles tiers and requirements for awards travel as of June 1 2014
AAnytime Award Tiers by Date (note that they vary by regions)
Green = Level 1
Yellow = Level 2
Red = Level 3
CONUS Calendar:
N. America - Hawaii Calendar:
New AAnytime rates, including current Level 3 prices (no more guessing what the * means):
Moderator Note:
We would invite members who are frustrated at this change and interested in venting, or who would like to discuss ways to communicate displeasure to the powers that be, to head to this thread:
Angry about AAdvantage devaluation / vent / what can I do? (April 2014, consolidated)
AA Increases AAnytime Award Mileage Costs / Adds Tiers [8 Apr 2014]
Apr 8, 2014, 8:59 am
#91
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
Posts: 3,214
AA Quietly Increased Anytime Award Just Now
Just received the email of the award changes. AA basically said the good things about lower AAnytime awards but not the worse part of it. However, it doesn't say international gateway is not allowed. I hope gateway stopover remains.
You really cannot compare DM routing rules as most of the rules resembled UA MP routing rules when they were competing against each other in *A.
You really cannot compare DM routing rules as most of the rules resembled UA MP routing rules when they were competing against each other in *A.
Apr 8, 2014, 8:59 am
#92
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 877
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjyyy
The main inflation reason is no doubt the 100k miles credit cards etc. and AA did not have to make these available, they are completely responsible for printing their currency and selling them to credit card companies and then with no notice, slashing the value of the currency.
That is not acceptable behaviour.
This is not "inflation," which is generally an accidental outcome of mistakes in monetary policy.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
Originally Posted by benjyyy
The main inflation reason is no doubt the 100k miles credit cards etc. and AA did not have to make these available, they are completely responsible for printing their currency and selling them to credit card companies and then with no notice, slashing the value of the currency.
That is not acceptable behaviour.
This is not "inflation," which is generally an accidental outcome of mistakes in monetary policy.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
Apr 8, 2014, 8:59 am
#93
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
Still AAnytime is clearly no longer going to be even a halfway-decent way to book around July 4, Thanksgiving, Labor Day and Christmas.
Another oddity: overnight layovers are not showing up anymore on award searches.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:01 am
#94
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW-In Plano & CDG-In the 11th
Programs: DL Diamond, AA revenue negative, Bonvoy Titanium +, Avis likes me
Posts: 3,209
This is not "inflation," which is generally an accidental outcome of mistakes in monetary policy.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
"Capitalism", which built America, and OBTW American Airlines is not a dirty word. Caveat Emptor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor predates the 1st mention of capitalism by many, many centuries, and the SEC, by even more.
To say anything more would get me redacted.
Last edited by Dallas49er; Apr 8, 2014 at 9:47 am
Apr 8, 2014, 9:02 am
#95
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Programs: AA P-Pro, Chase SP, SPG Gold
Posts: 556
Ouch, looks like our family-of-five trip to Seattle just ballooned to 300,000 miles....I'll earn when I fly, but sure looks like SPG Amex and Chase Sapphire Preferred just garnered all of my credit spend.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:04 am
#96
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: AA: EXP/5.2mm
Posts: 251
But how can you do that when they change the constraints with no notice?
Think about it....how can you optimize your behavior? That requires planning. And that planning doesn't count for sh*t when they change the rules overnight. Think of people who have been planning explorer awards - try telling them they weren't optimizing their behavior? What a load of nonsense.
Think about it....how can you optimize your behavior? That requires planning. And that planning doesn't count for sh*t when they change the rules overnight. Think of people who have been planning explorer awards - try telling them they weren't optimizing their behavior? What a load of nonsense.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:07 am
#98
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: AA: EXP/5.2mm
Posts: 251
This is not "inflation," which is generally an accidental outcome of mistakes in monetary policy.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
This is more like "stock watering," which is when crooked capitalists conceal crucial information about a failing business. Instead, they print/sell tons of stock to take advantage of hoodwinked investors who buy it because they don't know the business' true condition.
Stock watering was one reason why the SEC was created. Businesses are now required to file regular reports on their financial condition so investors can make educated decisions about whether to buy stock.
In this case, AA sold watered miles. AA management knew that the mile they were selling was only going to be worth 1/2 mile today. So what did it do? It issued tons of watered miles to capture as much capital as possible before its customers found out that they had been hoodwinked.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:08 am
#99
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Texas
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 279
Most of us knew this would happen and planned accordingly. The game will keep changing to close loopholes and extract every possible dime they can from us. The best way you can protect yourself is not holding large sums of AA currency, i.e. miles. Also you can plan trips far in advance to get grandfathered when changes like this happen.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:08 am
#100
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 79
The small family traveling casually and with some (but not much) flexibly can derive greater value from the program, IMO. It's not much but it is something.
Apr 8, 2014, 9:12 am
#102
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
Posts: 3,214
AA Quietly Increased Anytime Award Just Now
Can someone confirm whether the change involves the cut of gateway stopovers? Didn't say anywhere in AA.com
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/free-ticket-award-chart.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/free-ticket-award-chart.jsp
Apr 8, 2014, 9:16 am
#104
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Palm Springs & Buenos Aires
Posts: 125
AA so sneaky
Just received email announcing lower awards to many cities with a link to award chart. The email touts "no blackouts" and lower levels to many cities. But no mention in the email regarding new tiers and the reality of much higher levels.