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ATTENTION! Before you post...
This thread is for the general discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes.
Discussion about upgrades on the DFW-HKG flights are here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 Upgrade & Waitlist Discussion
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
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"In summer 2014, we plan to introduce new nonstop service between Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) and Hong Kong (HKG), a first for any U.S. carrier. Plus, enjoy a world-class travel experience to Hong Kong on our brand new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Check back soon for booking details."
First DFW-HKG flight on June 11, 2014. First HKG-DFW flight on June 13, 2014.
Schedule will be as under, subject to approvals (source airlineroute.net):
● AA137 Departing Dallas 12:45PM arriving Hong Kong 6:05PM (+1 day) [duration 16:20]
● AA138 Departing Hong Kong 1:30PM arriving Dallas 4:30PM [duration 16:00]
● 8,111 AAdvantage miles in each direction
"We plan to introduce new service between Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) and Shanghai (PVG), with flights beginning [on 11 June 2014]. We're excited to be the first U.S. carrier to offer this convenient nonstop route, which will complement existing service between our Chicago (ORD) and Los Angeles (LAX) hubs and Shanghai. Booking details available soon." Date as per 17 Oct 2013 filing with USDOT.
Schedule will be:
● Departing Dallas 10:55AM arriving Shanghai 2:55PM (+1 day) [duration 15:00]
● Departing Shanghai 4:50PM arriving Dallas 6:10PM [duration 14:20]
● 7,351 AAdvantage miles in each direction
In addition to these new routes, we currently offer you even more convenient nonstop flights to top destinations in Asia, including flights between:
Tokyo Narita (NRT) and Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW), Chicago (ORD) and Los Angeles (LAX)
Tokyo Haneda (HND) and New York Kennedy (JFK) (to be dropped Nov 29)
Beijing (PEK) and Chicago (ORD)
Seoul (ICN) and Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
Shanghai (PVG) and Chicago (ORD) Los Angeles (LAX) (not mentioned from AA announcement)
(lower right wiki corner)Route and General Discussion new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Routes
ATTENTION! Before you post...
This thread is for the general discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes.
Discussion about upgrades on the DFW-HKG flights are here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 Upgrade & Waitlist Discussion
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
Signed in members with 90 days / 90 posts can edit this Wikipost; wiki contents may be printed by using the
(lower right wiki corner)"In summer 2014, we plan to introduce new nonstop service between Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) and Hong Kong (HKG), a first for any U.S. carrier. Plus, enjoy a world-class travel experience to Hong Kong on our brand new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Check back soon for booking details."
First DFW-HKG flight on June 11, 2014. First HKG-DFW flight on June 13, 2014.
Schedule will be as under, subject to approvals (source airlineroute.net):
● AA137 Departing Dallas 12:45PM arriving Hong Kong 6:05PM (+1 day) [duration 16:20]
● AA138 Departing Hong Kong 1:30PM arriving Dallas 4:30PM [duration 16:00]
● 8,111 AAdvantage miles in each direction
"We plan to introduce new service between Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) and Shanghai (PVG), with flights beginning [on 11 June 2014]. We're excited to be the first U.S. carrier to offer this convenient nonstop route, which will complement existing service between our Chicago (ORD) and Los Angeles (LAX) hubs and Shanghai. Booking details available soon." Date as per 17 Oct 2013 filing with USDOT.
Schedule will be:
● Departing Dallas 10:55AM arriving Shanghai 2:55PM (+1 day) [duration 15:00]
● Departing Shanghai 4:50PM arriving Dallas 6:10PM [duration 14:20]
● 7,351 AAdvantage miles in each direction
In addition to these new routes, we currently offer you even more convenient nonstop flights to top destinations in Asia, including flights between:
Tokyo Narita (NRT) and Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW), Chicago (ORD) and Los Angeles (LAX)
Tokyo Haneda (HND) and New York Kennedy (JFK) (to be dropped Nov 29)
Beijing (PEK) and Chicago (ORD)
Seoul (ICN) and Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
Shanghai (PVG) and Chicago (ORD) Los Angeles (LAX) (not mentioned from AA announcement)
DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Starting Summer 2014 [route discussion]
Aug 11, 2014, 4:19 pm
#601
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I did a one-night turn last month, and was not able to check in until the morning of departure.
I tried without success:
a) online (didn't work because of mandatory document verification, despite no visa required)
b) at Airport Express Central Station in-town check-in (no contractors or AA agents working the AA desk at that hour)
c) at a kiosk in the airport terminal (gave an error: Please see an agent to complete check-in)
Here is what AA.com says about HKG check-in times:
TICKET COUNTER HOURS
9:30 a.m. – 12:30 noon
In-town check-in:
If you are taking the Airport Express, you can enjoy the convenient free in-town check-in (Airport Express Station) service in Hong Kong and Kowloon Stations to check in between 90-minutes and one full day ahead of your scheduled flight departure time.
(but again, I tried to go to the Airport Express station at approximately 9pm the night before my flight, and nobody was working the AA counters)
I tried without success:
a) online (didn't work because of mandatory document verification, despite no visa required)
b) at Airport Express Central Station in-town check-in (no contractors or AA agents working the AA desk at that hour)
c) at a kiosk in the airport terminal (gave an error: Please see an agent to complete check-in)
Here is what AA.com says about HKG check-in times:
TICKET COUNTER HOURS
9:30 a.m. – 12:30 noon
In-town check-in:
If you are taking the Airport Express, you can enjoy the convenient free in-town check-in (Airport Express Station) service in Hong Kong and Kowloon Stations to check in between 90-minutes and one full day ahead of your scheduled flight departure time.
(but again, I tried to go to the Airport Express station at approximately 9pm the night before my flight, and nobody was working the AA counters)
Aug 11, 2014, 4:24 pm
#602
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The only think I can think of is to buy a fully-refundable ticket for a late CX departure the same calendar day that you're arriving.
Aug 11, 2014, 4:35 pm
#603
Join Date: Jan 2013
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No such luck. No return BP at DFW because the HKG-DFW departure will be >24 hours prior. You arrive DFW-HKG at ~6pm, so the return flight is still the next calendar day. Also, the CX and other OW lounges close overnight, leaving only the Plaza Premium lounge that's open 24 hours, both landside and airside.
The only think I can think of is to buy a fully-refundable ticket for a late CX departure the same calendar day that you're arriving.
The only think I can think of is to buy a fully-refundable ticket for a late CX departure the same calendar day that you're arriving.
Aug 11, 2014, 6:48 pm
#604
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But wouldn't buying a fully-refundable CX ticket to access the lounges require you to be stamped out of Hong Kong at Immigration? All flights departing HKG are international flights, so once you are inside the secured area, you are legally in a no-mans-land, and you cannot just walk back out the door. You would need to be escorted by an agent downstairs to the arrivals level and then be cleared for entry through immigration again. Not sure it's worth it for a shower and a meal! Just Priceline a hotel for the night--that's what I did on my last HKG turn.
But wouldn't buying a fully-refundable CX ticket to access the lounges require you to be stamped out of Hong Kong at Immigration? All flights departing HKG are international flights, so once you are inside the secured area, you are legally in a no-mans-land, and you cannot just walk back out the door. You would need to be escorted by an agent downstairs to the arrivals level and then be cleared for entry through immigration again. Not sure it's worth it for a shower and a meal! Just Priceline a hotel for the night--that's what I did on my last HKG turn.
Aug 12, 2014, 1:06 pm
#606
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,014
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/12/14
Flying AA flight 138
Flight Status Depart Location Depart Date Reliability Arrive Location Arrive Date
HKG Scheduled: 08/12/14 1:30 PM DFW Scheduled: 08/12/14 3:40 PM
AA 138 Scheduled Term: Estimated: 92% / 13m Term: D Estimated:
Gate: Actual: Gate: D27 Actual:
Baggage: D29
DFW Scheduled: 08/12/14 6:05 PM DCA Scheduled: 08/12/14 9:55 PM
AA 138 Scheduled Term: C Estimated: 43% / 51m Term: B Estimated:
Gate: C4 Actual: Gate: 30 Actual:
Baggage: 11
Comments:
HKG 130P
DFW D29 D D27 340P 605P C C4
DCA 11 B 30 955P
1HKG/LX CANCEL HKG -DFW -ACFT N7LG OTS-ACFT DAMAGE *1417
7HKG/AUTO REACCOM CXL FLT COMPLETED SEE N*P1AA0138HKG12AUG *1446*CRCYMG
Aug 12, 2014, 4:06 pm
#608
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It's not just the brakes, but the chocks as well - both would have to fail (or not be set properly) for the airplane to spontaneously roll back with a door open. Someone's in big trouble.
Aug 13, 2014, 8:58 am
#609
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I was on this flight about 10 days ago and there was plenty of food at the walk-up bar but it started to get a bit empty toward the end of the flight. They fed us three decent sized meals in business, though, so I definitely didn't go hungry.
Aug 13, 2014, 9:15 am
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Aug 13, 2014, 9:17 am
#611
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I think the incident actually happened at DFW, it just caused a cancellation at HKG as a result as well.
Aug 13, 2014, 9:21 am
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I believe that AA has only a few directly-employed personnel stationed at HKG and most of the agent and ramp work is done by contractors. Bad news if somebody forgot to set the wheel chocks.
Aug 13, 2014, 9:48 am
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Aug 13, 2014, 11:28 am
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Seems to be a recurring problem at HKG.
Aug 13, 2014, 11:32 am
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