STATUS FOR SALE-- *including EXP*
Jul 29, 2006, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ratnamg
There will be quite a few who'd be happy just becuase they no longer have to get BIS Miles or Points to reach EXP..
Jul 29, 2006, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
I really have no concerns about this personally.
Let folks get a few months at EXP (securing 10K worth of their travel in the process) and then when they drop to Plat-- if the experience of people here is any indication-- they will sorely miss EXP level and, assuming they have it in them in the first place-- will try to qualify for same next year. I'd certainly rather see them accomplish this is this way rather than starting to offer EXP comps and/or EXP challenge, etc.
Let folks get a few months at EXP (securing 10K worth of their travel in the process) and then when they drop to Plat-- if the experience of people here is any indication-- they will sorely miss EXP level and, assuming they have it in them in the first place-- will try to qualify for same next year. I'd certainly rather see them accomplish this is this way rather than starting to offer EXP comps and/or EXP challenge, etc.
I would agree with you if this were a onetime program. If this program is continued and/or offered again next year it would dilute the EXP level during the second half of the year.
Jul 29, 2006, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ratnamg
Jon,
I would agree with you if this were a onetime program. If this program is continued and/or offered again next year it would dilute the EXP level during the second half of the year.
I would agree with you if this were a onetime program. If this program is continued and/or offered again next year it would dilute the EXP level during the second half of the year.
(not really written by me, BTW...)
If we're gonna' talk -only- in hyperbolics and extremes (as opposed to the actual profile of 90% of the people who are most likely to use this offer)-- consider this extreme example:
One can send the $10,000 and get 7 months (a little less even-- and that's if one does it immediately, we haven't really announced this thing even (if it wasn't for you!)) at EP and have to spend the money on AA.
One can take the same $10,000 and easily make EP in early 2007-- either in a week, or a month, or several months, etc. Maybe a nice DONE6 or something. That 10 grand will then yield up to 26 months at EP-- plus flying all over the world in comfort and not having to spend the $$ by the prescribed date. That's more than 3 times as long at EP for the same $$, and a far "better" use of the $$. If you're gonna' look at this from a "mileage runner's" p.o.v.
Not to mention that the VIPs in this offer are extremely "short-dated" compared to earned ones. Many of them will surely go unused (and some will even not use the full 10K, needless to say.)
Jul 29, 2006, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ratnamg
This a breach of the EXP sanctity(if one existed)!!!
Jul 29, 2006, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by elitetraveler
Jon - has anyone ever gotten final and offical confirmation on
1- are the 8 eVIPs part of this package
2- can existing EXPs purchase the 10k program to get the additional eVIPs
AA never called me back, and I figure you seem to be on the ball on fact vs. fiction
1- are the 8 eVIPs part of this package
2- can existing EXPs purchase the 10k program to get the additional eVIPs
AA never called me back, and I figure you seem to be on the ball on fact vs. fiction
What dark space has your head been in?
Jul 29, 2006, 8:22 pm
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I just want to know if the $10,000 EXP cards are going to be in the Gift Card sections of Safeways, Randalls, Tom Thumbs, and Dominicks locations next to the $100 AA Gift Cards. That would be really sweet!!!
Even the $5,000 Platinum cards and $2,500 Gold cards would grab many looks.
Even the $5,000 Platinum cards and $2,500 Gold cards would grab many looks.
Jul 29, 2006, 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Not to mention that the VIPs in this offer are extremely "short-dated" compared to earned ones. Many of them will surely go unused (and some will even not use the full 10K, needless to say.)
Agree with the rest of it, but doesn't the above just mean that the value of Feb 07 eVIPs on CC has dropped? or can we assume that all these new EXPs would not know of CC (I have only seen one or two here who have signed up).
Jul 29, 2006, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by alect
Agree with the rest of it, but doesn't the above just mean that the value of Feb 07 eVIPs on CC has dropped? or can we assume that all these new EXPs would not know of CC (I have only seen one or two here who have signed up).
And, in any case, AA most certainly is not concerning themselves with the value of VIPs on the black(ish) market when they make their decisions.
Jul 29, 2006, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Personally, I see that as a complete and total non-issue.
And, in any case, AA most certainly is not concerning themselves with the value of VIPs on the black(ish) market when they make their decisions.
And, in any case, AA most certainly is not concerning themselves with the value of VIPs on the black(ish) market when they make their decisions.
Jul 29, 2006, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by CO FF
The timing of this really sucks. My travel spend on AA from March 28-June 10 was way north of $10k...including 3 $1800 o/w J transcons.
A serious question: I read the T&C, and it doesn't mention anything about eVIPs. Does anyone know if these "bought" EXPs come with eVIPs?
A serious question: I read the T&C, and it doesn't mention anything about eVIPs. Does anyone know if these "bought" EXPs come with eVIPs?
Jul 29, 2006, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by mvoight
Now, if it came with Evips..
Jul 29, 2006, 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
One can send the $10,000 and get 7 months (a little less even-- and that's if one does it immediately, we haven't really announced this thing even (if it wasn't for you!)) at EP and have to spend the money on AA.
One can take the same $10,000 and easily make EP in early 2007-- either in a week, or a month, or several months, etc. Maybe a nice DONE6 or something. That 10 grand will then yield up to 26 months at EP-- plus flying all over the world in comfort and not having to spend the $$ by the prescribed date. That's more than 3 times as long at EP for the same $$, and a far "better" use of the $$. If you're gonna' look at this from a "mileage runner's" p.o.v.
One can take the same $10,000 and easily make EP in early 2007-- either in a week, or a month, or several months, etc. Maybe a nice DONE6 or something. That 10 grand will then yield up to 26 months at EP-- plus flying all over the world in comfort and not having to spend the $$ by the prescribed date. That's more than 3 times as long at EP for the same $$, and a far "better" use of the $$. If you're gonna' look at this from a "mileage runner's" p.o.v.
We have unimpeachable evidence that AA is not targeting "typical" FT'ers with this offer. They are targeting our colleagues at work who have always pooh-poohed mileage and status as "too much trouble" to bother with the programs. First of all, I doubt many of the 10K card buyers will hear of, figure out, and be able to use 8 evips's by 2/28/07 [much less put them up for grabs on CC]. These are the sort of people who won't realize EXP even has serious benefits until they see themselves pop to the top of an upgrade/standby list, or get directed to the BA FIRST lounge.
If even a few of the 10K cardholders end up in the First section of the Wing in HKG and choose to make 2007 a serious requal year, fine by me.
Jul 29, 2006, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by martin33
Amen!
We have unimpeachable evidence that AA is not targeting "typical" FT'ers with this offer. They are targeting our colleagues at work who have always pooh-poohed mileage and status as "too much trouble" to bother with the programs. First of all, I doubt many of the 10K card buyers will hear of, figure out, and be able to use 8 evips's by 2/28/07 [much less put them up for grabs on CC]. These are the sort of people who won't realize EXP even has serious benefits until they see themselves pop to the top of an upgrade/standby list, or get directed to the BA FIRST lounge.
If even a few of the 10K cardholders end up in the First section of the Wing in HKG and choose to make 2007 a serious requal year, fine by me.
We have unimpeachable evidence that AA is not targeting "typical" FT'ers with this offer. They are targeting our colleagues at work who have always pooh-poohed mileage and status as "too much trouble" to bother with the programs. First of all, I doubt many of the 10K card buyers will hear of, figure out, and be able to use 8 evips's by 2/28/07 [much less put them up for grabs on CC]. These are the sort of people who won't realize EXP even has serious benefits until they see themselves pop to the top of an upgrade/standby list, or get directed to the BA FIRST lounge.
If even a few of the 10K cardholders end up in the First section of the Wing in HKG and choose to make 2007 a serious requal year, fine by me.
Jul 30, 2006, 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Fair 'nuff, before getting too upset, consider the following:
(not really written by me, BTW...)
Not to mention that the VIPs in this offer are extremely "short-dated" compared to earned ones. Many of them will surely go unused
And many of the many "unused" will be extended due to compliants.
The squeeky wheel gets the oil.
Domestic flyers wont be the chief complainers.
Purchasers who fly Int. and don't clear WILL complain.
(and some will even not use the full 10K, needless to say.)
(not really written by me, BTW...)
Not to mention that the VIPs in this offer are extremely "short-dated" compared to earned ones. Many of them will surely go unused
And many of the many "unused" will be extended due to compliants.
The squeeky wheel gets the oil.
Domestic flyers wont be the chief complainers.
Purchasers who fly Int. and don't clear WILL complain.
(and some will even not use the full 10K, needless to say.)
Jul 30, 2006, 6:04 am
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Is it possible to buy this card - with a European address?