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Old Oct 8, 2010, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by SuzanneSLO
While certainly AA could drop the current MM threshold program with zero notice, why would they want to? Given the nature of the FF community, wouldn't AA want to give some notice that after X date, only BIS miles will count? Won't that likely lead to a short additional revenue boost to AA at the the relatively low cost of awarding the lifetime benefit sooner to those likely to receive it at some point anyway based on BIS miles?

Not picking on you Steve32, but it seems to me to be in AAs best interest to give notice of the change. -- Suzanne
IMHO, the AA MM program as is is genius. On one hand, you have frequent fliers that jump up to lifetime status and stay loyal to the airline because of the benefits they get...on the other, you have people who rarely fly who can earn these thresholds, but rarely see benefits because they fly so infrequently (not really diluting the elite pool). The latter still works for them because they can sell miles in bulk to third parties like Citi and make a killing off of those deals today and award redemption flights in the future without a noticeable change in lower level elite benefits.

Personally, I rarely fly AA right now, but am attributing a whole bunch of spending to my Citi cards trying to get to the $10k thresholds with my eyes on my first 1MM milestone. I honestly can't remember the last time I flew AA (I tend to stick to *A right now), but reading through these threads and trips reports makes me want to shoot for 1MM (hopefully eventually 2MM) and try out a JFK-LAX trip in one of their premium classes and even some other shorter domestic flights on them.

I mean...ice cream sundaes...come on ^.

Side note: I can still remember a flight in Y on SAA where they put out snickers ice cream bars and that little gesture made all the difference...ice cream is the key!

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Old Oct 9, 2010, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver
But reading through the steaming, redolent chicken guts of speculative FlyerTalk threads isn't going to reveal much more than that.
Amusing, disgusting, and oh-so-true all at once!
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:42 pm
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for whats it worth I was talking to the gold desk the other day and asked the lady what she thought on this topic and she made it sound like the program was NOT in any jeapordy.

The question will be if cc points and others will continue to count...I hope so, by May I'll be Plat for life.
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ptklob
for whats it worth I was talking to the gold desk the other day and asked the lady what she thought on this topic and she made it sound like the program was NOT in any jeapordy.

The question will be if cc points and others will continue to count...I hope so, by May I'll be Plat for life.


Just so you know, there is no "Gold Desk." You were speaking to a regular AAdvantage Reservations rep who any non-status member can contact by dialing 1-800-882-8880.

(Gold status gives you head-of-the-line priority, but not a separate group of agents. Only EXPs have an exclusive group of phone reps, a true "EXP Desk.")
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ptklob
for whats it worth I was talking to the gold desk the other day and asked the lady what she thought on this topic and she made it sound like the program was NOT in any jeapordy.

The question will be if cc points and others will continue to count...I hope so, by May I'll be Plat for life.
Each of us has our own hopes that certain types of earning currently in the PTD counter will be included in whatever AA MAY decide to use for LT programs, if they indeed keep them (and I suspect they will) and change them (I also expect, in time, they will.) With no idea what they will do, I'd expect PTD miles to still be just that, but perhaps a new, non-zeroing bucket for MM miles (similar to the elite buckets) to be created, with whatever counting to increment it that AA decides. Perhaps the "bar" to get LTG or LTP will be raised. Perhaps nothing. (But I sorta do expect something to change.) Anyway, in my personal case (not that nobody cares) I'd prefer only flight miles to count (including elite bonuses) - but that's my preference! YMMV

Since we are all speculating anyway...
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ESpen36
...(Gold status gives you head-of-the-line priority, but not a separate group of agents. Only EXPs have an exclusive group of phone reps, a true "EXP Desk.")
A minor correction: Platinum gets you head-of-the-line priority. Gold has to wait a bit longer, but still less than the general public (aka "self-loading cargo").

Also, when the EXP desk is relatively idle, its agents offload the main desk by taking calls from Platinum members.
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by shadesofgrey1x
Could you quote or at least give the thread where the "significant and fairly reliable information that this lifetime status program is likely to be modified or even dropped, most likely within 2010" is located I have not seen anything after several searches, except the mention a few months back by some CS reps encouraging members who were close to go over a threshold by years end.

Of course you use the term "AUGURY"
Which I think is right on target for the threads I have been seeing:


Definition of AUGURY
1
: divination from auspices or omens; also : an instance of this
2
: omen, portent

Lots of chat on the topic to be sure but I have yet to see anything "significant and fairly reliable".
I think people are most obviously talking about the thead on here- http://www.travelingbetter.com/forum...ead.php?t=2996
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 10:27 pm
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No, I know about that thread, and I think most folks are really speculating.

Originally Posted by EaglesOhThree
I think people are most obviously talking about the thead on here- http://www.travelingbetter.com/forum...ead.php?t=2996
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by ESpen36
Just so you know, there is no "Gold Desk." You were speaking to a regular AAdvantage Reservations rep who any non-status member can contact by dialing 1-800-882-8880.

(Gold status gives you head-of-the-line priority, but not a separate group of agents. Only EXPs have an exclusive group of phone reps, a true "EXP Desk.")
Why do a small few on this forum always feel so deeply compelled to call this out anytime and anywhere a poster makes this reference? It almost smacks of "little man" syndrome or something.

Seriously, anyone that understands this difference knows exactly what a poster really means when then say "GLD/PLT Desk"

And for the record, pull out one of your old GLD/PLT cards and look at the back (I just did); the freakin' card says, and I quote, "AAdvantage Gold Service Desk" (emphasis mine). How do we propose that those who are not anal retentive about this stuff should know the difference (and frankly whether they really need to care)

Sorry, but I continue to be amazed at the minutiae that is obsessed about around here...

Regards
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by scubadu

Sorry, but I continue to be amazed at the minutiae that is obsessed about around here...

Regards
^ I offer that some obsessive people may have more FT posts than BIS miles this year.

Perhaps FT could offer a Gold, Plat, ExPlat reward tier.
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 7:51 am
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Howdy,

FWIW - under my "View My Upgrades" tab it reads:

2 Million Miler Oct 1, 2010 2

And it shows I was indeed given 2 additional eVIPs

Nothing in the mail or email yet.

Keep the faith,

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Old Oct 12, 2010, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by ESpen36
Just so you know, there is no "Gold Desk." You were speaking to a regular AAdvantage Reservations rep who any non-status member can contact by dialing 1-800-882-8880.

(Gold status gives you head-of-the-line priority, but not a separate group of agents. Only EXPs have an exclusive group of phone reps, a true "EXP Desk.")
This is not correct on many fronts. EXPs do not have an "exclusive desk". EXP Agents will take PLT calls when they are not busy. I had 1st hand experience with this over the last 2 years.

The rest of this business about there is no gold desk etc, obviously comes from persons who know nothing about how call centers operate. Very, very few call centers waste human resources by having an Agent sit idle for "exclusivity" purposes. I know of one call center where dial a prayer Agents also handled CS for porn purchases.

So give the dead horse a rest. Maybe there were exclusive "desks" at one point now it is just a call queue. In call center lingo "desk" usually just means what AA does with it (ie call handling priority). In that sense there are GLD, PLT, EXP "desks".
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by Pakse
Howdy,

FWIW - under my "View My Upgrades" tab it reads:

2 Million Miler Oct 1, 2010 2

And it shows I was indeed given 2 additional eVIPs

Nothing in the mail or email yet.

Keep the faith,

Pakse

Oh, Oh you should have received "4" for 2MM not "2".
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by scubadu
Why do a small few on this forum always feel so deeply compelled to call this out anytime and anywhere a poster makes this reference?
I was thinking the same thing. I'm all for accuracy here-where it matters and has an actual impact (gotta correct if someone talks about using stickers on flights to LHR for example). The necessity to comment upon whether there is an actual desk for GLD or PLT members just escapes me. It matters not one whit for anything.

Originally Posted by shadesofgrey1x
This is not correct on many fronts. EXPs do not have an "exclusive desk". EXP Agents will take PLT calls when they are not busy. I had 1st hand experience with this over the last 2 years.

So give the dead horse a rest. Maybe there were exclusive "desks" at one point now it is just a call queue. In call center lingo "desk" usually just means what AA does with it (ie call handling priority). In that sense there are GLD, PLT, EXP "desks".
Sorry, but this is not really right. While the EXP agents may handle calls for the other tiers when not busy, there are exclusive agents for EXP, and this does correspond, metaphorically, to a desk. Because of the different cadre of agents and the capability/knowledge differences, this distinction does matter. So, an EXP will not (except under very unusual circumstances) get someone not from the EXP desk.

Cheers.
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Old Oct 12, 2010, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by fishferbrains
^ I offer that some obsessive people may have more FT posts than BIS miles this year.

Perhaps FT could offer a Gold, Plat, ExPlat reward tier.
Isn't that Coupon Connection?

(Used to be Omni, too.)
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