Dec 15, 2018, 2:08 am
Last edit by: 24left
From ANA's website "The All New A380: Transforming ANA Travel to Hawaii"
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
[Consolidated] ANA A380 discussion (was Rumor: ANA buying A380s?)
Feb 9, 2016, 2:09 pm
#91
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I love Japan but they always seem to have some crazy ideas. What's the deal
with hardcore porn with the important parts covered up by mosaic? Same
thing with Narita. Nobody really "wants" to fly into Narita. Just get over the
fact that Narita is an unpopular airport... add two more 10000-ft runways
at Haneda by extending the airport further into Tokyo Bay already.
(runways 1R/19R and 1L/19L and add a new terminal 3 in the middle))
with hardcore porn with the important parts covered up by mosaic? Same
thing with Narita. Nobody really "wants" to fly into Narita. Just get over the
fact that Narita is an unpopular airport... add two more 10000-ft runways
at Haneda by extending the airport further into Tokyo Bay already.
(runways 1R/19R and 1L/19L and add a new terminal 3 in the middle))
Narita will always exist, some countries will never be able to get landing rights to HND.
My question is, because ANA and the Japanese Gov are such GOOD friends would they allow ANA to use the A380 for a night spot in Haneda?
My thinking is, ANA will lobby for the A380 to be used at Haneda since its the biggest plane and they need to fill as many seats as possible.
Feb 9, 2016, 2:50 pm
#92
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good terms...
If ANA is allowed to get a couple of night slots at Haneda
for the A380, isn't it only fair that Emirates get some as well?
(Emirates being the only airline capable of sending two daily
A380 flights to Haneda and Narita... that's 2 A380s each)
Feb 9, 2016, 8:39 pm
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The original post referred to Haneda being closed to the A380, not Narita, where at least AF, LH, MH and TG have flown the A380. A smart move by Japan was to make the new slots in Haneda subject to continuing service to Narita, meaning that AF and LH substituted a daily A380 flight to Narita into two daily flights with A340/748 or 777, one into Haneda and one into Narita.
Feb 9, 2016, 11:34 pm
#94
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They are adding a fifth runway to the airport. Should be finished before 2020. Ready for the Olympics.
Narita will always exist, some countries will never be able to get landing rights to HND.
My question is, because ANA and the Japanese Gov are such GOOD friends would they allow ANA to use the A380 for a night spot in Haneda?
My thinking is, ANA will lobby for the A380 to be used at Haneda since its the biggest plane and they need to fill as many seats as possible.
Narita will always exist, some countries will never be able to get landing rights to HND.
My question is, because ANA and the Japanese Gov are such GOOD friends would they allow ANA to use the A380 for a night spot in Haneda?
My thinking is, ANA will lobby for the A380 to be used at Haneda since its the biggest plane and they need to fill as many seats as possible.
Feb 10, 2016, 12:04 am
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The governments of Japan and the UAE are also on very
good terms...
If ANA is allowed to get a couple of night slots at Haneda
for the A380, isn't it only fair that Emirates get some as well?
(Emirates being the only airline capable of sending two daily
A380 flights to Haneda and Narita... that's 2 A380s each)
good terms...
If ANA is allowed to get a couple of night slots at Haneda
for the A380, isn't it only fair that Emirates get some as well?
(Emirates being the only airline capable of sending two daily
A380 flights to Haneda and Narita... that's 2 A380s each)
Feb 11, 2016, 5:28 pm
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I think in the longterm (10 years or sooner), domestic slots at HND will be forfeited in exchange for more international services. The current international terminal could then be converted to a foreign airline-only one, and the other two revamped to handle all of JL and NH's services. Then the A380 could be allowed in the daytime.
Given Japanese demographic trends and the development of alternatives like the Chuo Maglev, I just don't see the need for frequent take off and landing slots in the years ahead. At the same time, NRT can finally be converted into a primarily LCC airport with some international services. One can dream.
Given Japanese demographic trends and the development of alternatives like the Chuo Maglev, I just don't see the need for frequent take off and landing slots in the years ahead. At the same time, NRT can finally be converted into a primarily LCC airport with some international services. One can dream.
Feb 11, 2016, 5:56 pm
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I agree. Even before the chuo maglev comes online, Hokkaido is getting shinkansen service, which will cut into a major source of domestic demand. T2 in particular seems to be designed for easy conversion to an international terminal -- arriving/departing passenger segregation is already built in so they would just need to add CIQ space.
Feb 11, 2016, 6:19 pm
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I agree. Even before the chuo maglev comes online, Hokkaido is getting shinkansen service, which will cut into a major source of domestic demand. T2 in particular seems to be designed for easy conversion to an international terminal -- arriving/departing passenger segregation is already built in so they would just need to add CIQ space.
By then all A380s may already be retired and recycled.
Feb 12, 2016, 9:20 pm
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Really excited for the maglev. The only maglev I see is the lame one built in Simcity.
Japan must be an really tough market to fight for especially with the fast ground transportation methods.
I think 30 years later by the time they finish boarding/loading the a380, the maglev would have already arrived at the destination
Japan must be an really tough market to fight for especially with the fast ground transportation methods.
I think 30 years later by the time they finish boarding/loading the a380, the maglev would have already arrived at the destination
Feb 12, 2016, 9:53 pm
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Really excited for the maglev. The only maglev I see is the lame one built in Simcity.
Japan must be an really tough market to fight for especially with the fast ground transportation methods.
I think 30 years later by the time they finish boarding/loading the a380, the maglev would have already arrived at the destination
Japan must be an really tough market to fight for especially with the fast ground transportation methods.
I think 30 years later by the time they finish boarding/loading the a380, the maglev would have already arrived at the destination
be 20-something men/women and they are not even born yet.
Feb 14, 2016, 5:50 pm
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The maglev will start operation between Tokyo and Nagoya in 12 years. That first stage alone will make it much less attractive to fly between Tokyo and cities to the west of Nagoya (Osaka, Kobe, Hiroshima, etc.)
Feb 14, 2016, 6:29 pm
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when the Tokyo-Nagoya section of the maglev is completed, can passengers
connect to "slow" shinkansen from Nagoya to Osaka?
the maglev shinkansen boggles my mind. Tokyo to Osaka in less than 73
minutes? I won't even have time to finish a full-lengh movie on my phone.
(which will be iPhone 36 by then?
)
Mar 4, 2016, 8:53 pm
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The article does not say that though....