Dec 15, 2018, 2:08 am
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From ANA's website "The All New A380: Transforming ANA Travel to Hawaii"
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
[Consolidated] ANA A380 discussion (was Rumor: ANA buying A380s?)
Aug 7, 2015, 2:33 pm
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I don't pretend to know the subject in depth, but it's my impression that the A380 isn't exactly super popular with most airlines - there are more airlines that have them are looking to get rid of them than there are airlines seeking to acquire them. Yeah, there are exceptions, but overall it seems that adoption of the A380 has significantly slowed or stopped altogether. While I'm sure it would be fun to ride in a premium cabin on an NH A380, I don't think the plane seems like a good fit for this airline. Maybe I'm wrong?
Aug 7, 2015, 3:20 pm
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When the A380 was first developed/ sold wasn't it aimed specifically at the slot restricted markets like Japan? There must be a reason neither JL or NH have purchased them, and I don't expect that to change.
Aug 7, 2015, 6:08 pm
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Haneda was added to the international market, plus a second runway at Narita means that the Tokyo market became far less constrained.
Domestically, the 747s were replaced with 777-300 and 777-200. The 300 has almost the same capacity as the 747 it replaced. With more airlines coming in, Skymark, Starflyer, Solaseed, Jet Star Japan, Peach, and a few others, the need for bigger airplanes were probably reduced.
Finally, Haneda has not yet been opened for A380. It took Lufthansa a while to just get the 747-8 approved. I noticed a gate the other day at the international terminal that seemed to have 3 boarding arms, so maybe the A380 will be coming. It was just a quick glimpse during take off so am not sure.
Aug 7, 2015, 7:56 pm
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Finally, Haneda has not yet been opened for A380. It took Lufthansa a while to just get the 747-8 approved. I noticed a gate the other day at the international terminal that seemed to have 3 boarding arms, so maybe the A380 will be coming. It was just a quick glimpse during take off so am not sure.
I'm more surprised that QF is allowed to park a 747 at HND all day.
Aug 7, 2015, 8:29 pm
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What makes the market for Korea with less than half the population of Japan be able to have both KE & OZ operating the A380 but neither NH or JL can for Japan?
Korea is also the only country that has its two main airlines both operating the A380, right?
Korea is also the only country that has its two main airlines both operating the A380, right?
Aug 7, 2015, 10:23 pm
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No, they won't. They cannot handle it. Only other airports who can bring A380 to FRA, CDG, MUC, AMS, LHR, FCO, MXP, MAN, LGW, ZRH, DXB, JED, AUH, JFK, IAD, ATL, MIA, LAX, SFO, DFW, IAH, NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, SYD, MEL, BNE, PER, AKL, PEK, PVG, CAN, JNB, CPT, MRU, KUL, DOH, BOM, DEL, and ICN.
Aug 7, 2015, 10:46 pm
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I guess they tow the QF bird somewhere, I don't think HND lacks remote stand space during the day. More an issue of gate space.
No, they won't. They cannot handle it. Only other airports who can bring A380 to FRA, CDG, MUC, AMS, LHR, FCO, MXP, MAN, LGW, ZRH, DXB, JED, AUH, JFK, IAD, ATL, MIA, LAX, SFO, DFW, IAH, NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, SYD, MEL, BNE, PER, AKL, PEK, PVG, CAN, JNB, CPT, MRU, KUL, DOH, BOM, DEL, and ICN.
Aug 10, 2015, 12:13 pm
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Domestically, the 747s were replaced with 777-300 and 777-200. The 300 has almost the same capacity as the 747 it replaced. With more airlines coming in, Skymark, Starflyer, Solaseed, Jet Star Japan, Peach, and a few others, the need for bigger airplanes were probably reduced.
Some can say OZ buy 380 to replace 744, but basically OZ only had 4 744 left, with 2 of them are 74M, which means it only has the capacity of a 772, that also means 380 would be way over capacity for the route operated by 74M, like FRA. (FRA is always one of the few F routes with OZ that have consistent award space in all classes, so you can see how good is the yield compare to LAX and JFK)
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Aug 10, 2015, 6:29 pm
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Aug 10, 2015, 6:34 pm
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Other than that, another reason is ITM banned 4 engines planes due to noise. HND-ITM is 6th busiest route in the world, so basically A380 won't have much use in Japan other than HND-CTS and HND-OKA, which means 4 to 5 planes are enough, a small fleet of new plane type would not make any financial sense.
Dec 31, 2015, 2:33 pm
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Just out, http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Comp...Hawaii-service
ANA Holdings will order three Airbus A380s as it seeks to expand international service amid a peaking market for domestic flights.
The deal, worth around 150 billion yen ($1.23 billion) based on the market price, would make ANA the first Japanese airline to add the superjumbos to its fleet. The planes are to be introduced in fiscal 2018 in routes to Hawaii and elsewhere.
The deal, worth around 150 billion yen ($1.23 billion) based on the market price, would make ANA the first Japanese airline to add the superjumbos to its fleet. The planes are to be introduced in fiscal 2018 in routes to Hawaii and elsewhere.
Dec 31, 2015, 2:50 pm
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It is likely that if the order report ends up being true that ANA probably scored a fairly good deal for the A380s. There are three that are parked in which two were supposed to be delivered to Skymark while the other one to Transaero, but these will no longer be delivered to their respective customers which makes it seem likely that these will be handed over to ANA.