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From ANA's website "The All New A380: Transforming ANA Travel to Hawaii"
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358
Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA
ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
[Consolidated] ANA A380 discussion (was Rumor: ANA buying A380s?)
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Those are scheduled maintenances so they know in advanced it won't be a A380 service on specific dates. So not every day during the winter/summer schedule that those flights are scheduled to be operated by A380.
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With only 3 frames, Hawaii makes sense as its a shorter flight and one frame can make one round trip making it easier to take planes out of service for maintenance.
Domestically in Japan, the A380 never made sense. The bullet train/shinkansen is taking a lot of business travellers off the Tokyo to Osaka route. Secondly a 500+ seat 77W is the plane to beat. Although you can put 800+ seats inside an A380 the plane is not certified to handle that many due to aircraft exit limitations. For Hawaii it makes more sense to do a high density J/Y split with as many Y seats they can put in.
Not sure if Guam or Okinawa can handle the A380 but other popular Japanese beach destinations makes sense.
Domestically in Japan, the A380 never made sense. The bullet train/shinkansen is taking a lot of business travellers off the Tokyo to Osaka route. Secondly a 500+ seat 77W is the plane to beat. Although you can put 800+ seats inside an A380 the plane is not certified to handle that many due to aircraft exit limitations. For Hawaii it makes more sense to do a high density J/Y split with as many Y seats they can put in.
Not sure if Guam or Okinawa can handle the A380 but other popular Japanese beach destinations makes sense.
Hard to imagine nearly 1000 people aboard a single aircraft.
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They only said this is not an official announcement
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Release is here:
http://www.anahd.co.jp/en/pr/201601/20160129-2.html
http://www.anahd.co.jp/en/pr/201601/20160129-2.html
ANA HD will introduce three new Airbus A380 aircraft onto routes between Tokyo and Honolulu. The A380 allows us to efficiently expand seating capacity at a lower cost per seat while offering a flexible range of cabin classes.
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Wow. So ANA is going to expand by 50% over 5 years? In a saturated, economically stagnant market with a shrinking population? And put A380s on a low-yield, saturated leisure route?
I'm nothing more than an armchair CEO, but IMO this business plan is a disaster. ANA is the new JAL (pre-2010 JAL).
I'm nothing more than an armchair CEO, but IMO this business plan is a disaster. ANA is the new JAL (pre-2010 JAL).
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Wow. So ANA is going to expand by 50% over 5 years? In a saturated, economically stagnant market with a shrinking population? And put A380s on a low-yield, saturated leisure route?
I'm nothing more than an armchair CEO, but IMO this business plan is a disaster. ANA is the new JAL (pre-2010 JAL).
I'm nothing more than an armchair CEO, but IMO this business plan is a disaster. ANA is the new JAL (pre-2010 JAL).
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What are the chances they will have a first class on this? Also do you think they will fly it from Narita? Or HND? I know HND doesn't allow A380s because of the wake disruption but since its ANA you think HND and the government will make the exception?
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I don't know, but here are my predictions:
75% chance they don't put F at all.
20% chance of 1 row of F.
Leaving 5% chance of having more than 1 row of F.
I doubt there will even be a big J cabin... heavy focus on W and Y.
75% chance they don't put F at all.
20% chance of 1 row of F.
Leaving 5% chance of having more than 1 row of F.
I doubt there will even be a big J cabin... heavy focus on W and Y.