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Old Dec 15, 2018, 2:08 am
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From ANA's website "The All New A380: Transforming ANA Travel to Hawaii"
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/promotions/airbus380/?cid=anaustop201812358

Great video of the A380 paintwork, from Airbus: https://youtu.be/wndab27nF8E
The first roll out, also from Airbus: https://youtu.be/ayQC68K9UhA

ANA Unveils the Features of its Honolulu Lounge (for the A 380)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/all-nippon-airways-ana-mileage-club/1912260-ana-unveils-features-its-honolulu-lounge-380-a.html
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Old Nov 21, 2018, 11:34 pm
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They are really taking their time to put it on the schedule...
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Old Nov 22, 2018, 4:17 am
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Sounds like service won't start until after Golden Week 2019: https://flyteam.jp/news/article/102850
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Old Nov 22, 2018, 8:33 pm
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According to ANA's letter to stock holders,
they will sell package tour (5 or 6 days) to Hawaii with A380 to stock holders.
Business class package from 298,000JPY to 398,000JPY, premium economy class package from 238,000JPY to 338,000JPY.
Tours are schedule from mid-May to begining of July, however specific dates haven't been shown.
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Old Nov 25, 2018, 5:56 pm
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Time to get some NH stocks then! What is the minimum to access these benefits??
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Old Nov 25, 2018, 6:17 pm
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The Governor of Hawaii is now in Japan in the participation of a formal ANA A380 presentation and I guess we can expect a major announcement within the next few days.
He will fly home on Tuesday. So it might be within the next 24 hours.

http://bigislandnow.com/2018/11/24/a...olulu-service/

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Old Nov 26, 2018, 7:29 pm
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May 24...

May 24 will be the inaugural day with three weekly flights initially.
The frequency will go up when more A380s are delivered.
The new amenity kits look good.

https://www.ana.co.jp/group/en/pr/201811/20181127.html

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Old Nov 26, 2018, 7:53 pm
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Superior meals for Premium Economy over Economy for the first time. Seems to tie in with the changes to PY access for elites. I wonder if this will eventually be replicated across the fleet.
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 8:38 pm
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Great!
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 8:17 am
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Surprised the press release did not mention HND.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Does anyone have any insight on which NRT flight will be oped by A380 for May and June? (I think it depends if the NQ or NH crew gets trained as one of the two rotation (183/184) is oped by NQ, but cannot confirm...)
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
Surprised the press release did not mention HND.
There are no free Haneda to the US slots at the moment If NH wanted to do a HND-HNL flight they would have to remove either LAX, JFK, or ORD from the Haneda routes
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 2:54 pm
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It would seem logical to replace the 789 on NH185/186 with the A380.

Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
There are no free Haneda to the US slots at the moment If NH wanted to do a HND-HNL flight they would have to remove either LAX, JFK, or ORD from the Haneda routes
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
It would seem logical to replace the 789 on NH185/186 with the A380.
Not directly, Haneda does not allow A380 flights that time of day due to the wake turbulence. Only late night when the domestic flights wind down so they would also need to retime the flights.

Though I did not realise that they had a HNL flight from HND as well. So the split of slots is 4/2, somehow I thought it was 3/2. My bad.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there is anything in the current bilateral that would restrict ANA from moving the departure back by 30-45mins to accommodate the A380 night ops requirement.

Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
Not directly, Haneda does not allow A380 flights that time of day due to the wake turbulence. Only late night when the domestic flights wind down so they would also need to retime the flights.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there is anything in the current bilateral that would restrict ANA from moving the departure back by 30-45mins to accommodate the A380 night ops requirement.
Right now the flight from HNL lands in Haneda at 17:25. That would need to be moved to 22:30 or later to accommodate the A380 in Haneda.

And though I don't remember the specifc time for the agreements on Haneda slots, there are specific numbers of night slots and of day slots defined. So yeah, not too easy to just shuffle.

Interestingly, despite having a night time departure in Haneda, Emirates use the A380 for Narita, and a 77W for Haneda. Could make me wonder if there are further complications in Haneda, of the master of A380 does not fly to Haneda with an A380
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