AS Schedule Changes (2021)
Jun 6, 2021, 8:41 pm
#211
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At this point, AS may as well revert back to what they had pre-VX purchase. There is only so much downsizing you can do before people lose interest and move their business elsewhere. They may well be smaller now than they were pre-VX purchase in SFO as it it is in ASMs as they have just decimated the whole operation here. Going back to SEA/PDX/PSP/PVR/SJD and a few other token flights within California should be fine for them. Having completely inconsistent schedules and cancelling flights when everybody else is adding as everything opens up just does nothing to regain confidence. If they do try to rebuild, they will be starting from scratch which will be very costly.
plus rerouting via sea /pdx just adds too much time to and from hawaii or even east coast
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Jun 6, 2021, 9:48 pm
#212
Join Date: Apr 2014
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At this point, AS may as well revert back to what they had pre-VX purchase. There is only so much downsizing you can do before people lose interest and move their business elsewhere. They may well be smaller now than they were pre-VX purchase in SFO as it it is in ASMs as they have just decimated the whole operation here. Going back to SEA/PDX/PSP/PVR/SJD and a few other token flights within California should be fine for them. Having completely inconsistent schedules and cancelling flights when everybody else is adding as everything opens up just does nothing to regain confidence. If they do try to rebuild, they will be starting from scratch which will be very costly.
Jun 6, 2021, 10:45 pm
#213
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Jun 6, 2021, 10:57 pm
#214
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Looks like bulk of changes went through Sep 7th and Sep 8th is new placeholder. SEA-SJC is now 3x mainline +1x RJ daily through Sep 7th and 8x mainline daily on Sep 8th. SEA-SFO is now 8x daily through Sep 7th and then 11x daily starting on Sep 8th.
Jun 7, 2021, 8:24 am
#215
Join Date: May 2009
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If I book an itinerary with AS that has a layover connecting onto a AA flight (operated by SkyWest), and AA changes the schedule by an hour or more, does AS's involuntary schedule change policy still apply?
Jun 7, 2021, 9:32 am
#216
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My late August SFO/ORD has suffered a major schedule change - 11-ish AM is now 7 AM. 
The return is also about 3 hours earlier - from 6-something PM to 3-something PM. So, now I've got to leave home before the Bay Bridge traffic (i.e., 5am) and miss out on what would have been a pleasant most-of-the-day in Chicago on the return.. The original times worked well for me, booked at a time when I could have chosen AA (or even UA) as nonstop options. (And as one way is in paid F and the other with a GGU, changing airlines at this point, where the fares have shot way up, is not an option.)
The return is also about 3 hours earlier - from 6-something PM to 3-something PM. So, now I've got to leave home before the Bay Bridge traffic (i.e., 5am) and miss out on what would have been a pleasant most-of-the-day in Chicago on the return.. The original times worked well for me, booked at a time when I could have chosen AA (or even UA) as nonstop options. (And as one way is in paid F and the other with a GGU, changing airlines at this point, where the fares have shot way up, is not an option.)
Jun 7, 2021, 11:00 am
#217
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Alaska is asking me to call in about a schedule change for a trip in August. I have a flight that is OGG (Maui) - SFO - BOS. Looking at their website, it seems that the OGG-SFO flight has been canceled. I have a pair tickets with a Companion Fare booked in Main and another pair (with a Companion Fare) booked in Saver. Wondering if you all could help me with a few questions before I call them:
1. If it is indeed a schedule change, would I be able to change the date of the flight? I'd like to depart a day later.
2. I paid to upgrade to Premium Economy on one of the legs, that should still be good on a new flight, correct?
3. Would I be able to ask them to put us in Exit Row seats? Not sure what type of allowance occurs on schedule changes.
Thank you in advance.
1. If it is indeed a schedule change, would I be able to change the date of the flight? I'd like to depart a day later.
2. I paid to upgrade to Premium Economy on one of the legs, that should still be good on a new flight, correct?
3. Would I be able to ask them to put us in Exit Row seats? Not sure what type of allowance occurs on schedule changes.
Thank you in advance.
Instead of OGG-SFO-BOS, I now have OGG-SEA-BOS, similar departure but a shorter layover. The seating assignments got a little messed up, though, and I was wondering if anyone had some insights.
1. Two of the tickets are Saver Fares. When I booked in December, they allowed me to pick seats. Now the OGG-SEA seating is unassigned. I know Saver tickets generally aren't assigned until check-in but considering they had seats before, would calling into Alaska make a difference?
2. Two tickets that are Main Fares have seats that were changed to the back rows. On the website, all of the Premium seats are showing as Occupied or "X"ed (actually the majority are X). However, using the app, I can upgrade to Premium seats. I'm just curious why there's a discrepancy between the website and the app.
3. I'm planning on a status match to MVP Gold in July. Should I wait for that to pick exit row seats? Or is it unlikely to happen?
Thank you.
Jun 7, 2021, 6:32 pm
#219
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Jun 8, 2021, 1:44 am
#220
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3 of my 4 cheap first class flights to FLL from LAX must have just gotten cancelled. They don’t even appear in the app anymore. What are my rights and options before I call if y’all don’t mind? Ideally I’m open to other dates. I only picked those due to the prices. The 4th one which wasn’t cancelled was in October, so I am guessing September just got their bloodbath of cancellations.
Jun 8, 2021, 6:17 am
#221
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3 of my 4 cheap first class flights to FLL from LAX must have just gotten cancelled. They don’t even appear in the app anymore. What are my rights and options before I call if y’all don’t mind? Ideally I’m open to other dates. I only picked those due to the prices. The 4th one which wasn’t cancelled was in October, so I am guessing September just got their bloodbath of cancellations.
Jun 8, 2021, 6:31 am
#222
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Seattle
Programs: Alaska airlines 100k
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3 of my 4 cheap first class flights to FLL from LAX must have just gotten cancelled. They don’t even appear in the app anymore. What are my rights and options before I call if y’all don’t mind? Ideally I’m open to other dates. I only picked those due to the prices. The 4th one which wasn’t cancelled was in October, so I am guessing September just got their bloodbath of cancellations.
AS cancelled your booked flight. Call AS and provide them with your preferred alternative and they may give you that flight and be able to keep your confirmation number and thus the locked in price.
Jun 8, 2021, 7:21 am
#223
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Great advice if the pax wants to overnight in SEA or wait a couple months for the next time AS decides to fly the route. Not very practical though. Flying another airline is really the only practical option during this period.
Jun 8, 2021, 9:57 am
#224
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3 of my 4 cheap first class flights to FLL from LAX must have just gotten cancelled. They don’t even appear in the app anymore. What are my rights and options before I call if y’all don’t mind? Ideally I’m open to other dates. I only picked those due to the prices. The 4th one which wasn’t cancelled was in October, so I am guessing September just got their bloodbath of cancellations.
Jun 8, 2021, 10:01 am
#225
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Yeah, the non-stops from LAX-FLL are always going to be cheaper than going LAX-SEA-FLL, but you also lose over 1,000 EQMs so now that they're cancelled, you should be able to get them to route you LAX-SEA-FLL at their expense....this is one of those situations where you come out ahead in the long run--especially if you have the ability to access the excellent N lounge in SEA.
Just like AS outsourced the vast majority of flights from SFO to OO/QX, they are outsourcing flights east of the Mississippi from California to other airlines. At least with AA people can still get AS miles if they like.
Last edited by sfozrhfco; Jun 8, 2021 at 10:08 am