$110 Companion Ticket Valid for COACH class only - Effective August 1st, 2012
#196
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: GEG
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Lifetime SkyClub, AS MVP
Posts: 2,410
#197
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
#199
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
Agreed. As a matter of fact, I'd rather be in a regular 32" pitch Y seat than in a bulkhead row with a fixed bulkhead. I get a little claustrophobic for some reason, when I can't stretch my legs out. On the sCO birds, the 737 bulkheads have a 6 inches cut-out at the bottom, plus the bottom half of the wall cuves towards the F cabin to ensure there is plentiful knee space and legroom.
#200
Join Date: May 2006
Location: TUS/PDX
Programs: WN CP/A-List, AS MVPG75K
Posts: 5,798
#201
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Priority Club Plat, Marriott Gold
Posts: 249
Canned response from AS Customer Service
I too received the same canned letter today in response to my emails to Alaska management talking about how great they still are blah blah blah.
Its irritating to not get a real response from someone when so many of us are voicing our concerns.
One part that really killed me was:
"The changes to the credit card program benefits were made to maintain the program's financial viability while also protecting what we felt were the most important components of the value that it offers to cardholders like you"
Protecting what WE felt were the most important components... what about what your CUSTOMERS feel are the most important parts? We're the Alaska customer focus groups asked about these changes at all? Anyhow... I'm still all the more so convinced I'm done with AS.
It was a good run Alaska... but you broke our relationship.
Its irritating to not get a real response from someone when so many of us are voicing our concerns.
One part that really killed me was:
"The changes to the credit card program benefits were made to maintain the program's financial viability while also protecting what we felt were the most important components of the value that it offers to cardholders like you"
Protecting what WE felt were the most important components... what about what your CUSTOMERS feel are the most important parts? We're the Alaska customer focus groups asked about these changes at all? Anyhow... I'm still all the more so convinced I'm done with AS.
It was a good run Alaska... but you broke our relationship.
#202
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 56
we own property in hawaii and regularly fly there, at least 3 trips a year - we have a stop over, so 4 segments per person, per trip (2 segments each way). 4 person family = 3 trips a year, which equals 48 segments. We always have flown Alaska despite the lack of direct flights because that way we get the miles and can use companion certs and get first class on at least 1 flight.
In addition, I fly additional 2 business trips a year. my in laws have the other 2 cards and also fly, so in all the segments actually exceed what is quoted.
not sure I want to publish the actual route because I dont' see the relevance to the discussion.
In addition, I fly additional 2 business trips a year. my in laws have the other 2 cards and also fly, so in all the segments actually exceed what is quoted.
not sure I want to publish the actual route because I dont' see the relevance to the discussion.
#203
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
Bottom line, AS has to differentiate themselves if they want to be the primary airline for high yield frequent travelers to offset their small route network that only has 1-2x flight per day to most business destinations west of Colorado. I view AS as Apple in the PC market.
The companion certificate was something that truly differentiated AS, so was their old SDC policy, the 1,000 booking bonus, unrestricted MVPG Gold Upgrade Certificate, their solid F product, MVPG cookies, AS50, etc. AS managed to un-differentiate themselves in less than three years.
Right now, only two things that differentiates AS from the competition is the change fee waiver and the front line employees, specifically the FAs ^
I want to stay with AS, but they are making it impossible. Heck, my info here still lists AS first.
#205
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SEA
Posts: 12,485
Bottom line, AS has to differentiate themselves if they want to be the primary airline for high yield frequent travelers to offset their small route network that only has 1-2x flight per day to most business destinations west of Colorado. I view AS as Apple in the PC market.
The companion certificate was something that truly differentiated AS, so was their old SDC policy, the 1,000 booking bonus, unrestricted MVPG Gold Upgrade Certificate, their solid F product, MVPG cookies, AS50, etc. AS managed to un-differentiate themselves in less than three years.
Right now, only two things that differentiates AS from the competition is the change fee waiver and the front line employees, specifically the FAs ^
I want to stay with AS, but they are making it impossible. Heck, my info here still lists AS first.
The companion certificate was something that truly differentiated AS, so was their old SDC policy, the 1,000 booking bonus, unrestricted MVPG Gold Upgrade Certificate, their solid F product, MVPG cookies, AS50, etc. AS managed to un-differentiate themselves in less than three years.
Right now, only two things that differentiates AS from the competition is the change fee waiver and the front line employees, specifically the FAs ^
I want to stay with AS, but they are making it impossible. Heck, my info here still lists AS first.
As someone who mostly travels for business, I could care less about the changes the SDC policy, the loss of the booking bonus, or no cookies. Yes, there are other changes that sting, but they're not enough to outweigh the benefits.
I find the complaints from posters outside of AS' core markets to be quite interesting. While MP has some advantages for everyone, I really don't know why you'd pursue elite status on AS unless your travel was focused on the cities AS serves non-stop from your home airport.
#206
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: Lifetime AS 1MM & MVPG, AS MVPG100K, AA, DL, HH-G
Posts: 8,259
Another new restriction from the AS website:
"Valid for round-trip or one-way travel. Multiple stopovers not allowed."
and when shopping for a two city stopover I got:
"The Discount Code entered is valid for round-trip or one-way travel, however the itinerary selected exceeds the maximum stopovers. Clear all selections to choose other flight options."
Shuts down a lot of options
"Valid for round-trip or one-way travel. Multiple stopovers not allowed."
and when shopping for a two city stopover I got:
"The Discount Code entered is valid for round-trip or one-way travel, however the itinerary selected exceeds the maximum stopovers. Clear all selections to choose other flight options."
Shuts down a lot of options
#207
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BLI
Programs: Alaska Million Mile Flyer, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,195
I too received the same canned letter today in response to my emails to Alaska management talking about how great they still are blah blah blah.
Its irritating to not get a real response from someone when so many of us are voicing our concerns.
One part that really killed me was:
"The changes to the credit card program benefits were made to maintain the program's financial viability while also protecting what we felt were the most important components of the value that it offers to cardholders like you"
Its irritating to not get a real response from someone when so many of us are voicing our concerns.
One part that really killed me was:
"The changes to the credit card program benefits were made to maintain the program's financial viability while also protecting what we felt were the most important components of the value that it offers to cardholders like you"
While it makes me cranky that the 1K online booking bonus is gone, it makes sense if I take a step back. It's a relic. It was created in a time when it was unusual to book on the web. Now, you're penalized if you don't. So while I benefited from the bonus, I can't argue with the fact that the original reason for the incentive no longer exists.
I don't like the loss of the first class use of the companion certificate, but I only used mine once that way.
So in the grand scheme of things, the reduction in benefits is not huge. It's annoying. But it's not huge.
What's more significant to me is the crappy BofA customer service, and that's a BofA problem, not an AS problem. And it's why I still plan to cancel my cards as soon as I can can get replacements in place at BECU. I simply don't believe any BofA promises, if there are any, to make that part of the experience better.
#208
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Alaska
Programs: Alaska MVPG
Posts: 265
Check it out - so far fourteen pages of flyer talk comments on another decision that lessens the uniqueness of what made Alaska Airlines special.
As a customer of AkAir since 1972 when they only owned/leased five planes, had trouble paying fuel bills, and were known as "Elastic Air", I enjoyed how they improved over the years and became known as the best carrier in the business.
Now that is being eroded away by "nit-picky" corporate decisions that supposedly have "the customer in mind". Management can say all they want in emails, letters, or the friendly stories in the monthly magazine; the fact remains that Alaska Airlines is changing again and not necessarily for the better.
Too bad those that make the decisions are tone-deaf to their loyal customers.
As a customer of AkAir since 1972 when they only owned/leased five planes, had trouble paying fuel bills, and were known as "Elastic Air", I enjoyed how they improved over the years and became known as the best carrier in the business.
Now that is being eroded away by "nit-picky" corporate decisions that supposedly have "the customer in mind". Management can say all they want in emails, letters, or the friendly stories in the monthly magazine; the fact remains that Alaska Airlines is changing again and not necessarily for the better.
Too bad those that make the decisions are tone-deaf to their loyal customers.
#209
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
Programs: Jumbo mas
Posts: 38,653
While it makes me cranky that the 1K online booking bonus is gone, it makes sense if I take a step back. It's a relic. It was created in a time when it was unusual to book on the web. Now, you're penalized if you don't. So while I benefited from the bonus, I can't argue with the fact that the original reason for the incentive no longer exists.
#210
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Southwest
Posts: 296
No - no status with AS (not enough flights for us to get there). I'm silver with USAirways.
I figure to dump my wife's business card first -- I added that primarily for the miles offer as well as to provide the companion fare this year (we will have used three during this year and still have one of the 'FC companion' coupons in hand (will possibly use that next year for a trip up to Victoria).
The thing is, the only time I've used the FC option is for a trip this December to Hawaii. The other times we use AS it typically is shorter haul flights (Phoenix/Portland or Phoenix/Seattle).
The other reason we have their cards is to run expenses through them for overseas matches. Last year it was LA/Nadi/Auckand and return Christchurch/Nadi/LA.
Actually, I think I'll start another thread for my next miles vacation.
I figure to dump my wife's business card first -- I added that primarily for the miles offer as well as to provide the companion fare this year (we will have used three during this year and still have one of the 'FC companion' coupons in hand (will possibly use that next year for a trip up to Victoria).
The thing is, the only time I've used the FC option is for a trip this December to Hawaii. The other times we use AS it typically is shorter haul flights (Phoenix/Portland or Phoenix/Seattle).
The other reason we have their cards is to run expenses through them for overseas matches. Last year it was LA/Nadi/Auckand and return Christchurch/Nadi/LA.
Actually, I think I'll start another thread for my next miles vacation.
You're similarly situated as the wife and me. We have the regular and business card. Will you replace the business card with another or use the regular one for both purposes?
If you have status with AS, at least you have a decent shot at exit row seating in Y. That increases the tolerability if you can't score an F upgrade.
If you have status with AS, at least you have a decent shot at exit row seating in Y. That increases the tolerability if you can't score an F upgrade.