Successful/unsuccessful oneup bids
Nov 6, 2017, 10:26 am
#1066
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,124
Well yes and no... if you have 1pax alone doing a 1up bid to sky couch it means there needs to be 2 vacant seats next to them (which may mean moving 2 other pax to free these seats). If 2 pax are doing a sky couch bid together then there only needs to be 1 vacant seat (which may only mean moving 1 pax).
The idea of the OneUp is to sell existing unallocated Skycouch rows
Nov 8, 2017, 6:10 am
#1067
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 4
Yes exactly. So a couple sharing a row would logically get preference over 1 person having a row to themselves. Say you have 3 rows with 7 pax (2 couple's and 3 singles). All the singles have done oneup bids of $300 and the couples have only done $200. You can either accept the 2 couples bids ($400 revenue) and make the singles sit in the last row together or you can accept 1 single with the higher bid ($300 revenue) and make the 2 singles share the rows with the 2 couples. Logically the $400 revenue win's.
Nov 17, 2017, 10:56 pm
#1070
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: South Island, New Zealand
Programs: Krisflyer, Qantas Frequent Flyer, Air NZ Airpoints, Koru, NZ*S and former *G
Posts: 317
Nov 17, 2017, 11:44 pm
#1071
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,645
Those are the APD Elite upgrades. Where Elites can pay a fix APD amount for an upgrade. These are applied before the RUs and OneUps.
OneUps paid in APD and NZD are reviewed at the same time. Members with status get their OneUps upweighted e.g Silvers 10% extra. I'm not sure what happens if there are two equal bids and only one seat available, not sure on their selection process.
OneUps paid in APD and NZD are reviewed at the same time. Members with status get their OneUps upweighted e.g Silvers 10% extra. I'm not sure what happens if there are two equal bids and only one seat available, not sure on their selection process.
Last edited by nzkarit; Nov 18, 2017 at 12:28 am
Nov 18, 2017, 12:04 am
#1072
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: South Island, New Zealand
Programs: Krisflyer, Qantas Frequent Flyer, Air NZ Airpoints, Koru, NZ*S and former *G
Posts: 317
Thanks, that helps - I understood about the elite APD upgrades but wasn't sure of the situation for the rest of us, particularly if there was any hierachy for Oneup bids other than the various status tiers.
Nov 18, 2017, 12:44 am
#1073
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,124
There is no reason for Air NZ to treat a OneUp differently whether you've paid with APD or cash. Both are one and the same.
Nov 18, 2017, 6:09 pm
#1074
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Auckland NZ
Programs: NZ Gold Elite, AS, AC, QF
Posts: 748
Of course they are different. Cash means revenue against an upgraded seat: an op-up (from the no bidding system era) means upgrading a passenger without any revenue attached. Using APDs means NZ's and *A's liability for non-revenue award seats is reduced: rather than a seat being entirely non-revenue, you put a someone who's already on a revenue ticket into that class of service.
Nov 18, 2017, 6:25 pm
#1075
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,124
I don't really understand your logic. From an accounting perspective APD is treated as cash by Air NZ.
It makes no difference to the airline in terms of accounting whether you pay cash or use APD.
It makes no difference to the airline in terms of accounting whether you pay cash or use APD.
Nov 18, 2017, 7:30 pm
#1076
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,645
So their may be a small benefit in favouring Cash OneUps over APD OneUps, as it may mean the APD expires without being used. Though the only time it may factor is if there are two equal bids and only one seat left.
Nov 19, 2017, 4:09 pm
#1077
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: united , air new zealand
Posts: 3
Successful US$365 bid ( weak ) for solo traveller to get skycouch NZ8 AKL-SFO Nov 20th.
Happy but dont like the fact that NZ made me wait til 8 hours before departure to confirm when any other oneup gives you 72 hours notice.
This last minute thing gives you no chance to maybe change airline or use another option
Probly could have got Y to PE for same $$ but in my experience SC is far better value as I can lie down.
Truth be told as a single traveller would rather have AirNZ SC than the UAL business class I flew last trip when considering the quality, cost or upgrade cost.
Happy but dont like the fact that NZ made me wait til 8 hours before departure to confirm when any other oneup gives you 72 hours notice.
This last minute thing gives you no chance to maybe change airline or use another option
Probly could have got Y to PE for same $$ but in my experience SC is far better value as I can lie down.
Truth be told as a single traveller would rather have AirNZ SC than the UAL business class I flew last trip when considering the quality, cost or upgrade cost.
Nov 19, 2017, 5:14 pm
#1078
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,124
OneUps are not always confirmed at T-72.
At T-72 you'll get an email saying one of 3 things - it's rejected, it's confirmed, or that it can't be confirmed at this time but may be confirmed right up until the gate.
As OneUp is about maximising revenue plenty are now clearing at the gate after RU and APD upgrades have been cleared when previously they would have been automatically rejected at T-72.
At T-72 you'll get an email saying one of 3 things - it's rejected, it's confirmed, or that it can't be confirmed at this time but may be confirmed right up until the gate.
As OneUp is about maximising revenue plenty are now clearing at the gate after RU and APD upgrades have been cleared when previously they would have been automatically rejected at T-72.
Nov 21, 2017, 8:03 am
#1079
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 165
I came across this airpoints oneup success guide which helped me burn up some credit card airpoints dollars for an unnecessary but rather nice AKL-SYD upgrade from Y to PE. Had a Koru voucher to redeem, so it was a premium experience all the way given I have no status with AirNz or star alliance. $150 well spent!