Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
May 9, 2021, 9:45 pm
#436
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May 9, 2021, 10:58 pm
#437
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May 10, 2021, 3:02 am
#438
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If you don’t have checked luggage you can also stay in the lounge and then drop the connecting flight, provided it’s the last segment. The only awkward situation would be explaining to the lounge people that they don’t need to drive you to the plane. The phone agent advised me that if you do this and have checked luggage you have to pay €275 penalty and if it’s not your last segment the fee is €1500 to reinstate the remaining segments.
May 10, 2021, 3:29 am
#439
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Location: London, Paris
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So I went through the "new" La Premiere lounge this morning.
1) Food items available for the taking were not available. It was all a la carte. This is fine. Food was great, but pretty much same as what was served in the mezzanine area during peak Covid.
2) Lounge was showing wear back when I went through in November 2019. The new version has very subtle changes, but overall feels "refreshed." Nothing particularly noteworthy other than it's great not to be in that mezzanine area again.
3) Really the best best best best best part was the private security.
My PA said that pax P numbers were *just* high enough to warrant re-opening the lounge. For what it's worth, I was the only one there. And the complete unadulterated luxury made me miss F travel in pre-pandemic times. Truly a wonderful lounge overall.
1) Food items available for the taking were not available. It was all a la carte. This is fine. Food was great, but pretty much same as what was served in the mezzanine area during peak Covid.
2) Lounge was showing wear back when I went through in November 2019. The new version has very subtle changes, but overall feels "refreshed." Nothing particularly noteworthy other than it's great not to be in that mezzanine area again.
3) Really the best best best best best part was the private security.
My PA said that pax P numbers were *just* high enough to warrant re-opening the lounge. For what it's worth, I was the only one there. And the complete unadulterated luxury made me miss F travel in pre-pandemic times. Truly a wonderful lounge overall.
May 10, 2021, 4:10 am
#440
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Posts: 1,040
Thanks for the update !
Looking forward to be back there early in june
Are the massage available or not yet ?
Looking forward to be back there early in june
Are the massage available or not yet ?
May 10, 2021, 4:23 am
#441
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Location: London, Paris
Programs: LH HON, AF Platinum
Posts: 2,001
Oooh I couldn't tell. It seemed like all was open because I wasn't specifically told otherwise. But I didn't check. My connection was all of an hour and it flew by partly because I was playing Knights of the Old Republic II on my iPad...
May 10, 2021, 2:27 pm
#442
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Thanks for the update. I look forward to checking it out. This all confirms that the lengthly closure was driven by AF business decisions around Covid (aka the "LH model") as opposed to real legal constrains. This is fine and every business has the right to choose how to react, but it's good to be clear about this. I appreciate the approach that AF has taken over the last several months as opposed to LH's.
May 10, 2021, 4:13 pm
#444
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Location: London, Paris
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Posts: 2,001
Thanks for the update. I look forward to checking it out. This all confirms that the lengthly closure was driven by AF business decisions around Covid (aka the "LH model") as opposed to real legal constrains. This is fine and every business has the right to choose how to react, but it's good to be clear about this. I appreciate the approach that AF has taken over the last several months as opposed to LH's.
I flew LX to London via Zurich on Saturday last week. It was the first time doing LX39 since late August. In flight service was impeccable but every other aspect of travel was completely unacceptable for F passengers:
1) no lounge in zrh if you can’t enter Switzerland (and even if you could, no lounge for F pax)
2) no ground support whatsoever. I ordinarily am not too fussed about that since my LHR gate was literally across the hall… but the flight was sitting at an apron position.
May 10, 2021, 5:52 pm
#445
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Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
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LH/LX have been absurd for F/HON travelers since the start of the pandemic. Aside from having to use regular security and the mezz lounge (which has full indoor dining and was far better than anything offered by LH/LX for its F pac), AF has been a model airline to travel with in first class. Everyone every step of the way has gone above and beyond in the 5 or so P trips I took in the last 6 months.
I flew LX to London via Zurich on Saturday last week. It was the first time doing LX39 since late August. In flight service was impeccable but every other aspect of travel was completely unacceptable for F passengers:
1) no lounge in zrh if you can’t enter Switzerland (and even if you could, no lounge for F pax)
2) no ground support whatsoever. I ordinarily am not too fussed about that since my LHR gate was literally across the hall… but the flight was sitting at an apron position.
I flew LX to London via Zurich on Saturday last week. It was the first time doing LX39 since late August. In flight service was impeccable but every other aspect of travel was completely unacceptable for F passengers:
1) no lounge in zrh if you can’t enter Switzerland (and even if you could, no lounge for F pax)
2) no ground support whatsoever. I ordinarily am not too fussed about that since my LHR gate was literally across the hall… but the flight was sitting at an apron position.
May 11, 2021, 1:50 pm
#446
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Location: Paris and around the WW
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As there is no P for GRU any longer, I will be flying with LX in F end of July.
Let's hope that the service will be good and not make me regret AF (even in J).
Have you guys noticed a recent price increase for P tickets with AF ?
I was looking this afternoon for a BCN - CDG - MEX in P at the end of August and no tickets below 6,3 k€ while I am used to find good deals around 5,3 k€
Any info about that ?
Let's hope that the service will be good and not make me regret AF (even in J).
Have you guys noticed a recent price increase for P tickets with AF ?
I was looking this afternoon for a BCN - CDG - MEX in P at the end of August and no tickets below 6,3 k€ while I am used to find good deals around 5,3 k€
Any info about that ?
May 11, 2021, 3:27 pm
#447
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As there is no P for GRU any longer, I will be flying with LX in F end of July.
Let's hope that the service will be good and not make me regret AF (even in J).
Have you guys noticed a recent price increase for P tickets with AF ?
I was looking this afternoon for a BCN - CDG - MEX in P at the end of August and no tickets below 6,3 k€ while I am used to find good deals around 5,3 k€
Any info about that ?
Let's hope that the service will be good and not make me regret AF (even in J).
Have you guys noticed a recent price increase for P tickets with AF ?
I was looking this afternoon for a BCN - CDG - MEX in P at the end of August and no tickets below 6,3 k€ while I am used to find good deals around 5,3 k€
Any info about that ?
May 13, 2021, 3:18 am
#448
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May 13, 2021, 3:24 am
#449
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As said above, the lounge was closed for a long time because of the pandemic and low number of P pax, not because of the renovation. For just the renovation, it would have been closed likely for 1 month.
May 13, 2021, 3:46 am
#450
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