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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
May 20, 2021, 8:24 am
#466
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
Doubling down on the request to our fortunate La Première frequent flyers, please do let us know if there are new branded goodies 
! I usually only do it once a year so can't miss that window of opportunity, and looking forward to add to my passport holder and luggage tag 
.
! I usually only do it once a year so can't miss that window of opportunity, and looking forward to add to my passport holder and luggage tag .
May 27, 2021, 8:37 am
#467
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: DOH
Programs: BA:GOLD
Posts: 213
The 20th A350 for AF is marked as the first one to be receiving La Premiere according to this Wikipedia page that is quite accurate. At the current production rate, this plane should join AF within 15 months.
May 27, 2021, 8:43 am
#468
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,568
The 20th A350 for AF is marked as the first one to be receiving La Premiere according to this Wikipedia page that is quite accurate. At the current production rate, this plane should join AF within 15 months.
May 27, 2021, 8:47 am
#469
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: PAR, TYO, SEL, SIN, SYD
Programs: AF/KLM Platinum Ultimate, VA Velocity Platinum, ALL Platinum
Posts: 716
All we needed was a worldwide pandemic to start seeing P in an A350.
So much for fleet simplification though, after retrofit the fleet will look like this:
777-200 3 configs (40J, 28J, 16J)
777-300 5 configs (new COI, Loisir, P/58J, P/40J, 8P)
787-9 1 config
A330-200 1 config
A350-900 2 configs (P, no P)
Fleet wide lie-flat all aisle access still sounds like a pipe dream.
So much for fleet simplification though, after retrofit the fleet will look like this:
777-200 3 configs (40J, 28J, 16J)
777-300 5 configs (new COI, Loisir, P/58J, P/40J, 8P)
787-9 1 config
A330-200 1 config
A350-900 2 configs (P, no P)
Fleet wide lie-flat all aisle access still sounds like a pipe dream.
May 27, 2021, 8:54 am
#470
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: DL DM, FB Gold
Posts: 296
Impressions from the lounge last Saturday. It was quite busy in the morning but understaffed as there was only one employee in charge of food & beverage. I wanted to sit at the bar for a while with a glass of Bruno Paillard but it was not staffed so that was not possible.
7:39AM
7:39AM
May 29, 2021, 4:48 pm
#473
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,603
Jun 2, 2021, 2:55 pm
#475
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, DL DM since inception, 3+ MM, HH Gold, SPG-Gold
Programs: DL, UA, AA, HH, SPG, HH, Hertz, Avis
Posts: 1,838
Doubling down on the request to our fortunate La Première frequent flyers, please do let us know if there are new branded goodies ! I usually only do it once a year so can't miss that window of opportunity, and looking forward to add to my passport holder and luggage tag .
! I usually only do it once a year so can't miss that window of opportunity, and looking forward to add to my passport holder and luggage tag .in looking at the LP review videos on YouTube, I have noticed, that a red LP bag containing luggage tags and other goodies does exist!
Jun 4, 2021, 11:27 pm
#476
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: DL DM, FB Gold
Posts: 296
Can you confirm the lounge offering at LAX? I was told all lounges are closed until at least mid-June but that P passengers can order anything off the menu at “Vino Volo” in Tom Bradley terminal. Unfortunately I have a 5 hour layover at LAX before the P flight so that could be an extended visit at Vino Volo.
Jun 5, 2021, 12:12 am
#477
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Reality, Freedom • Fly Tarom •
Programs: AF FB Platinum For Life (F+ Rouge Vintage®) / Hertz President's Circle / SNCF Grand Voyageur Le Club
Posts: 10,077
Can you confirm the lounge offering at LAX? I was told all lounges are closed until at least mid-June but that P passengers can order anything off the menu at “Vino Volo” in Tom Bradley terminal. Unfortunately I have a 5 hour layover at LAX before the P flight so that could be an extended visit at Vino Volo.
La Première during the COVID Transition to normalcy (We hope!)
Jun 11, 2021, 7:06 am
#478
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
Forgot to take some pics on my way to MEX last sunday
Just flew back from MEX today and here are some pics
Menu is back to normal with more options than in the past and we can, finally clear immigration directly in the lounge
Croque Monsieur Comté / Truffes
Dessert Roland Garros
And because food is everything, here are some in-flight food pictures
Just flew back from MEX today and here are some pics
Menu is back to normal with more options than in the past and we can, finally clear immigration directly in the lounge
Croque Monsieur Comté / Truffes
Dessert Roland Garros
And because food is everything, here are some in-flight food pictures
Jun 11, 2021, 8:48 am
#479
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: DL DM, FB Gold
Posts: 296
On my flight AF 65 (LAX-CDG) I think I got, what @SFO777 would perhaps call, the B-team - or even the C-team.
The ground experience at LAX involved a separate check-in queue for P and escort through security. Red envelopes for the boarding pass were unavailable due to Covid. The lounge offering is a wine bar called Vino Volo where customers can order anything off the menu. Options include nice American wines by the glass and even bottles of premium wines of the world are available. In terms of food small bites are available and served on cardboard plates or in plastic cups with plastic cutlery. The server told me some funny story of an AF P passenger who ordered a bottle of Cristal and slurped it with a straw from Starbucks. I was also reminded several times that tip/service charge is not paid by AF so it would be up to me to give it.
The cabin was full 4/4 and when I arrived onboard 3 crew members were occupied with a French rockstar who was onboard. He was very upset that he had an aisle seat so the crew came to me (1L) and the gentleman in 1A to ask if we would switch because the musician was claustrophobic, however we both declined. There was no silver tray or pre-departure beverage apart from water. I asked for some champagne and was told, yes, after the doors are closed, but never ended up getting any before take-off.
The rockstar immediately closed his curtains after take off for the duration of the rest of the flight - this is certainly a very unusual form of claustrophobia! Dinner was nice but could not compare to the offering on the outbound CDG-LAX which was to be expected. But the service was what really disappointed me. They forgot the starters, served me the salad instead (I had requested it after the main course as suggested in the menu) and after enquiring what was going on I ended up getting the starters after the main course. This should not really happen in First Class. Maybe I was eating too slowly and the timing of heating the dishes was a problem, I don't know. Just like on the outbound flight the WiFi was not functional which was great – less distraction, more sleep and enjoyment.
The bed was very comfy and I fell asleep quickly after indulging in some cheese and Château La Dominique 2015 which is an absolute delight for lovers of powerful and heavy Bordeaux (15% alc vol). It was very hot so I woke up thirsty a couple of times. With the whole plane in "sleep mode" and my call button malfunctioning I got up to get some more water both times. Not a big deal as I don't like using the call button anyways. I did not request any breakfast, just some juice and tea. Hoping for a refill of juice, the crew was nowhere to be seen for the last half an hour before landing. They were in the business class galley chatting with their colleagues.
The ground experience was truly "magnifique" though and made up for what was lacking onboard. The staff were incredibly nice, I asked for a goodie and received a USB stick two minutes later (apparently nothing else is available due to the recent reopening of the lounge but I gather that the stock level of goodies is a bit of a black box). Being able to lie down and sleep for just a couple of extra hours, followed by a cold shower, in the comfort of the lounge was great. As on the outbound, the wine list included Bruno Paillard Blanc de Blancs, an epic champagne, and Chateau Cantenac-Brown 2008. I was not sure if I was going to love the infamous coquillettes au jambon et truffe noir but they absolutely blew me away. When I think back to the lounge, I immediately think of the coquillettes and the great charcuterie. Before it was time to leave I asked one of the staff if I could taste some of the Macallan whiskies on display at the newly renovated bar - and so, my fantastic stay came to its worthy conclusion.
The ground experience was the best I ever had thanks to some amazing employees - their courteousness, sophistication and professionalism really blew me away. Overall I was left a bit stupefied that the consistency of the onboard P product was not as usually reported on this forum and other blogs. My outbound flight was superb with a really enthusiastic FA, on the return I was left wanting more. Please do tell me if my expectations were simply too high in this regard. In any case, I look forward to entering the captivating world of La Première in the not too distant future.
The ground experience at LAX involved a separate check-in queue for P and escort through security. Red envelopes for the boarding pass were unavailable due to Covid. The lounge offering is a wine bar called Vino Volo where customers can order anything off the menu. Options include nice American wines by the glass and even bottles of premium wines of the world are available. In terms of food small bites are available and served on cardboard plates or in plastic cups with plastic cutlery. The server told me some funny story of an AF P passenger who ordered a bottle of Cristal and slurped it with a straw from Starbucks. I was also reminded several times that tip/service charge is not paid by AF so it would be up to me to give it.
The cabin was full 4/4 and when I arrived onboard 3 crew members were occupied with a French rockstar who was onboard. He was very upset that he had an aisle seat so the crew came to me (1L) and the gentleman in 1A to ask if we would switch because the musician was claustrophobic, however we both declined. There was no silver tray or pre-departure beverage apart from water. I asked for some champagne and was told, yes, after the doors are closed, but never ended up getting any before take-off.
The rockstar immediately closed his curtains after take off for the duration of the rest of the flight - this is certainly a very unusual form of claustrophobia! Dinner was nice but could not compare to the offering on the outbound CDG-LAX which was to be expected. But the service was what really disappointed me. They forgot the starters, served me the salad instead (I had requested it after the main course as suggested in the menu) and after enquiring what was going on I ended up getting the starters after the main course. This should not really happen in First Class. Maybe I was eating too slowly and the timing of heating the dishes was a problem, I don't know. Just like on the outbound flight the WiFi was not functional which was great – less distraction, more sleep and enjoyment.
The bed was very comfy and I fell asleep quickly after indulging in some cheese and Château La Dominique 2015 which is an absolute delight for lovers of powerful and heavy Bordeaux (15% alc vol). It was very hot so I woke up thirsty a couple of times. With the whole plane in "sleep mode" and my call button malfunctioning I got up to get some more water both times. Not a big deal as I don't like using the call button anyways. I did not request any breakfast, just some juice and tea. Hoping for a refill of juice, the crew was nowhere to be seen for the last half an hour before landing. They were in the business class galley chatting with their colleagues.
The ground experience was truly "magnifique" though and made up for what was lacking onboard. The staff were incredibly nice, I asked for a goodie and received a USB stick two minutes later (apparently nothing else is available due to the recent reopening of the lounge but I gather that the stock level of goodies is a bit of a black box). Being able to lie down and sleep for just a couple of extra hours, followed by a cold shower, in the comfort of the lounge was great. As on the outbound, the wine list included Bruno Paillard Blanc de Blancs, an epic champagne, and Chateau Cantenac-Brown 2008. I was not sure if I was going to love the infamous coquillettes au jambon et truffe noir but they absolutely blew me away. When I think back to the lounge, I immediately think of the coquillettes and the great charcuterie. Before it was time to leave I asked one of the staff if I could taste some of the Macallan whiskies on display at the newly renovated bar - and so, my fantastic stay came to its worthy conclusion.
The ground experience was the best I ever had thanks to some amazing employees - their courteousness, sophistication and professionalism really blew me away. Overall I was left a bit stupefied that the consistency of the onboard P product was not as usually reported on this forum and other blogs. My outbound flight was superb with a really enthusiastic FA, on the return I was left wanting more. Please do tell me if my expectations were simply too high in this regard. In any case, I look forward to entering the captivating world of La Première in the not too distant future.
Jun 11, 2021, 9:26 am
#480
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,603
On my flight AF 65 (LAX-CDG)... the cabin was full 4/4 and when I arrived onboard 3 crew members were occupied with a French rockstar who was onboard. He was very upset that he had an aisle seat so the crew came to me (1L) and the gentleman in 1A to ask if we would switch because the musician was claustrophobic, however we both declined. The rockstar immediately closed his curtains after take off for the duration of the rest of the flight - this is certainly a very unusual form of claustrophobia!