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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Apr 27, 2017, 4:00 pm

#976

jamesn00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

They are based in a France, so this is the other way around. The plane which flies CDG-SFO turns around 2 or 3 hrs later for SFO-CDG.

Exactly. MWF both directions.

Apr 29, 2017, 9:43 am

#977

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Seems like CPT is going to be another destination with BEST seats, I'm not 100% sure when, but looking at flights for late October shows a 1-2-1 configuration (vs. the 330 flying today)

Apr 30, 2017, 1:33 am

#978

agjil

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I had a very pleasant surprise a few days ago where my AF flight had the BEST seats while at time of booking they were showing the NEV4 seats.
Very nice seats I have to say - I got very good sleep on my TATL flight.
However, AF's service was not the best and I felt they have a lot of room to improve.

Apr 30, 2017, 5:18 am

#979

Goldorak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agjil

IHowever, AF's service was not the best and I felt they have a lot of room to improve.

Just bad luck IMO, as AF service is good to very good in the immense majority of my flights. Of course there is always room for improvement.

Apr 30, 2017, 1:03 pm

#980

TravelingAssociate

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Apologies, but I'm still confused - do the JFK flights (AF9, 19, 23) consistently have the new J 1/2/1 hard product? Multiple posts seem to indicate so, but SeatGuru says these are only angled lie-flats. Thanks.

Apr 30, 2017, 2:09 pm

#981

San Gottardo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelingAssociate

Forget SeatGuru for relevant information about which cabin flies where. If you have access, check seat maps in Expertflyer or make a dummy booking on AF.com.

Apr 30, 2017, 3:19 pm

#982

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelingAssociate

how many times do you need to ask the same question in the same forum ?

Apr 30, 2017, 3:29 pm

#983

wco81

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Well if AF had more consistent J class product across the fleet, people wouldn't have to ask.

May 1, 2017, 5:06 am

#984

jcmetrokraft

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditto

Seems like CPT is going to be another destination with BEST seats, I'm not 100% sure when, but looking at flights for late October shows a 1-2-1 configuration (vs. the 330 flying today)

CPT-CDG had BEST seats on 773 last month.

May 1, 2017, 8:12 am

#985

Ditto

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmetrokraft

CPT-CDG had BEST seats on 773 last month.

According to EF, they seem to be getting back to fly with BEST on a 772 in October, and for now only running with the 332.

Code:

Flight Timetables Search:
Search CDG to CPT on 10/22/17 up to 7 days

Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Duration Frequency Effective Ending
AF 864 0 CDG 9:40 AM CPT 9:20 PM 332 11 hrs 40 mins W,F,Su 04/20/17 10/27/17

AF 864 0 CDG 10:10 AM CPT 10:30 PM 772 11 hrs 20 mins T,W,F,Sa,Su 10/29/17 12/31/17

May 6, 2017, 3:45 pm

#986

Rowyourboat

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Hello,

I'm a bit confused by the first post. I'm flying on AF 26 (CDG->IAD) in La Premiere, and I see the plane is a 772. Does that have the newest F cabins? From the wikipost it seems like none of them should have an F cabin, so I'm not sure what to expect.

How does the 772 F compare to the 77W F? I tried searching but the search removes "772" from my query because it's too short, so it's hard to find the answer.

Thanks.

May 6, 2017, 3:54 pm

#987

Goldorak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowyourboat

There is a problem somewhere. I can confirm to you that the 772 doesn't have P anymore.
The 77W (with P) was present recently, flying as AF054/055 (I flew it earlier this week) and might be still around. But with a double daily rotation, the A388 (with P) is flying as AF054/055 and the other rotation (AF026/027) is with a B772 so without P !
So check your booking, because it's not possible that you fly P in the 772.

May 6, 2017, 4:07 pm

#988

Rowyourboat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

Thanks for clarifying. I looked up the reservation and I see that it is on a 77W!! Quite excited by that!

My confusion was because I looked up AF 26 (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR26) and saw it's a 772 3-cabin listed as (First / Business / Economy). But if you look up the seat maps, it looks like they mean J-W-Y.

CDG->IAD is AF 54 until June 1st, after that AF starts operating two flights on several days, one is on the A380 and the other is the 77W.

Thanks for your help. It's my first time flying P and 2nd time ever on AF so I'm pretty excited.

May 7, 2017, 2:43 am

#989

Goldorak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowyourboat

I am glad everything is clarified. Enjoy every minute of your P experience

May 19, 2017, 11:24 am

#990

Colin

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I prefer the later evening departure of AF76 CDG-LAX 772. ExpertFlyer seat map shows 12 rows of J in 1-2-1 config.

Would I be crazy to chose this later flight over the mid-day AF72 CDG-LAX 77W, which I assume is a sure-thing best J seat?