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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA NEV4 F-GSPE NEV4 F-GSPM NEV4 F-GSPZ NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB BEST F-GSPC BEST F-GSPF BEST F-GSPG BEST F-GSPH BEST F-GSPI BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK BEST F-GSPQ BEST F-GSPR BEST F-GSPS BEST F-GSPT BEST F-GSPU BEST F-GSPV BEST F-GSPX BEST F-GSPY BEST or
Code:
F-GSPL BEST F-GSPO BEST F-GSPN BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD NEV4 F-GSQE NEV4 F-GZNH NEV4 F-GZNI NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA BEST F-GSQB BEST F-GSQC BEST F-GSQF BEST F-GSQG BEST F-GSQH BEST F-GSQI BEST F-GSQJ BEST F-GSQK BEST F-GSQL BEST F-GSQY BEST F-GSQM BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV BEST F-GSQY BEST F-GZNA BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE BEST or
Code:
F-GSQN NEV4 F-GSQO NEV4 F-GSQP NEV4 F-GSQR NEV4 F-GSQS NEV4 F-GSQT NEV4 F-GSQX NEV4 F-GZNF NEV4 F-GZNG NEV4 F-GZNL NEV4 F-GZNN NEV4 F-GZNO NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
#466
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I recently had the opportunity to sample the new cabin. Here is the report: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...s-yvr-cdg.html
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AF ordered a lot of the high-density 468 seats, more than needed for pure COI destinations. They choose the appellation "destinations loisirs" for a few non-COI destinations. I remember Montreal and Bangkok being called so. Not only was the plane a COI config but the service onboard was also reduced to COI standards. I do not think that any other 77W configs were ever called "leisure". In the end of the retrofit, 77W will have three configs 296/381/468 plus a quick-change config of 322 (only 38J).
The situation is a bit simpler for 772s. All will have 280 seats (40J) with a quick-change at 316 (16J).
Last edited by brunos; Dec 2, 2015 at 2:39 am
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Wiki updated : F-GSPI has been equipped with the new cabins. Oddly the livery is still the old one.
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My recollection is different.
AF ordered a lot of the high-density 468 seats, more than needed for pure COI destinations. They choose the appellation "destinations loisirs" for a few non-COI destinations. I remember Montreal and Bangkok being called so. Not only was the plane a COI config but the service onboard was also reduced to COI standards. I do not think that any other 77W configs were ever called "leisure". In the end of the retrofit, 77W will have three configs 296/381/468 plus a quick-change config of 322 (only 38J).
AF ordered a lot of the high-density 468 seats, more than needed for pure COI destinations. They choose the appellation "destinations loisirs" for a few non-COI destinations. I remember Montreal and Bangkok being called so. Not only was the plane a COI config but the service onboard was also reduced to COI standards. I do not think that any other 77W configs were ever called "leisure". In the end of the retrofit, 77W will have three configs 296/381/468 plus a quick-change config of 322 (only 38J).
Here is by example what AF has released for the delivery of their last 77W (which has the NEV4 seat and BEST Y/W)
Air France accueille son quarantime Boeing 777-300ER !
04/11/2015
Le 3 novembre 2015, le 40me Boeing 777-300ER d'Air France a fait son entre dans la flotte de la Compagnie.
L'avion, en provenance des usines Boeing de Seattle, s'est pos pour la premire fois sur les pistes de l'aroport de Paris-Charles de Gaulle.
Il volera sur les lignes du rseau long-courrier d'Air France, en version Loisirs (381 siges), en remplacement des anciens Boeing 747-400.
AF exploite actuellement 67 Boeing 777 (dont 40 Boeing 777-300, 25 Boeing 777 200 et 2 Boeing 777 cargo), une des plus importantes flottes de 777 au monde.
04/11/2015
Le 3 novembre 2015, le 40me Boeing 777-300ER d'Air France a fait son entre dans la flotte de la Compagnie.
L'avion, en provenance des usines Boeing de Seattle, s'est pos pour la premire fois sur les pistes de l'aroport de Paris-Charles de Gaulle.
Il volera sur les lignes du rseau long-courrier d'Air France, en version Loisirs (381 siges), en remplacement des anciens Boeing 747-400.
AF exploite actuellement 67 Boeing 777 (dont 40 Boeing 777-300, 25 Boeing 777 200 et 2 Boeing 777 cargo), une des plus importantes flottes de 777 au monde.
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OK, I yield, I yield
I was wrong to assume that AF had some commercial logic in its terminology.
Trying to infer some logic, I would venture the following explanation looking at the AF document:
- 77W will only have BEST for all cabins on the version with F (4F/58J). According to the wiki that would be around 18 ac. Some of these can be quick-changed to 4F/18J seats.
- All other 77W will retain NEV4 in J and will have either 42 NEV4 or 14 NEV4. All these are called "leisure" (or "leisure" and "COI"). Whether the service is different on "leisure" is a question mark but it seems implicit.
Will AF also call "leisure" all its other longhaul planes (330/340/380) which only have NEV4/NEV3?
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Can I expect to have the new cabin this sunday on AF 682? I'll be flying economy.
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You will get a Leisure 77W (381 seat 77W)
So, you can get either the old (F-GSQD)
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7236885
or the more recent (F-GSQE, F-GZNH, F-GZNI, F-GZNJ, F-GZNK)
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7196918
or the newest Y seats (F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNR)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...0e7848e2724c31
So, you can get either the old (F-GSQD)
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7236885
or the more recent (F-GSQE, F-GZNH, F-GZNI, F-GZNJ, F-GZNK)
http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7196918
or the newest Y seats (F-GZNP, F-GZNQ, F-GZNR)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...0e7848e2724c31
Last edited by LY777; Dec 3, 2015 at 6:25 am
#478
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Would love to have the latter two, as long I dont get the F-GSQD.
EDIT: Could you advice which aircraft I can expect on AF 689 on 13th december?
EDIT: Could you advice which aircraft I can expect on AF 689 on 13th december?
Last edited by Akira7; Dec 3, 2015 at 6:18 pm
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I recently had the opportunity to sample the new cabin. Here is the report: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...s-yvr-cdg.html
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