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Old Sep 4, 2018, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by tracon
Leave 6 hours late, then return to sender.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ROU1951
That was a Rogue plane?! Yikes! Imagine being trapped on that plane for 10 hours only to come back where you came from! Presumably in a few hours/day time they'll be on the same cramped plane, hopefully this time actually arriving at their final destination. No doubt there won't be extra FFP miles for the additional "milage" earned on this route.

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Old Sep 4, 2018, 6:43 am
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https://twitter.com/flightradar24
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Any remarks? EF?

(Side note: I wish KIX was ML!)
YVR-KIX is moving to mainline for next summer given the rouge YVR base is closing. Will be operated by a 788.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
I overheard "three days" as an informal guess within a conversation between mechanics. That would put a return to service on Thursday, and if the fleet is as stretched as you imply, I'm sure there's incentive to get it out of the barn. Perhaps someone can monitor the flight tracking apps to see when it reappears.
C-FMWV was flying again as of Aug 31.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by j2simpso
That was a Rogue plane?! Yikes! Imagine being trapped on that plane for 10 hours only to come back where you came from! Presumably in a few hours/day time they'll be on the same cramped plane, hopefully this time actually arriving at their final destination. No doubt there won't be extra FFP miles for the additional "milage" earned on this route.

-James
And what I don't get is why as of this morning is AC showing Flight 1951 YVR to KIX is "on time" for a mid day departure. Kind of hard to believe consider KIX is totally closed with 3000 people and numerous staff trapped at the airport.

Unless they plan to fly passengers to Tokyo/Fukuoka/Nagoya and from there domestic to Itami, I don't see how on earth that plane can depart "on time".

PS-finger crossed when I take that same route in a month that things go OK. Yeah, trapped for a long time on a Rouge plane...no fun...at least I am in so called Rouge Premium, but...
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by mapleg
And what I don't get is why as of this morning is AC showing Flight 1951 YVR to KIX is "on time" for a mid day departure. Kind of hard to believe consider KIX is totally closed with 3000 people and numerous staff trapped at the airport.
Flight was finally cancelled, but surprised there is no Travel Alert in place yet.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Flight was finally cancelled, but surprised there is no Travel Alert in place yet.
What a joke. I mean put a travel waiver/alert in place. They do that routinely for a few skiffs of snow at YYZ or possible thunderstorms. A serious situation like this occurs and nothing? Out of sight out of mind to AC.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by mapleg
What a joke. I mean put a travel waiver/alert in place. They do that routinely for a few skiffs of snow at YYZ or possible thunderstorms. A serious situation like this occurs and nothing? Out of sight out of mind to AC.
Just found a Typhoon Jebi notice on the homepage. Looks like it's been up for a few days, but not part of the Travel Alerts.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...hoon-jebi.html
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Just found a Typhoon Jebi notice on the homepage. Looks like it's been up for a few days, but not part of the Travel Alerts.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...hoon-jebi.html
Thanks for posting that. I suppose they think it's easy to find on the homepage, but I tend to go to flight status or travel alerts.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 4:33 pm
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Incident: Rouge B763 near New York on Aug 28th 2018, pilot incapacitated

Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Sep 4th 2018 18:39Z, last updated Tuesday, Sep 4th 2018 18:39Z

An Air Canada Rouge Boeing 767-300, registration C-GBZR performing flight RV-1712 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Punta Cana (Dominican Republic) with 250 passengers and 8 crew, was enroute at FL330 about 60nm southeast of New York JFK,NY (USA) when one of the pilots became incapacitated prompting the other pilot to declare PAN PAN and to return to Toronto where the aircraft landed safely about 70 minutes later.

The Canadian TSB reported shortly after the aircraft had levelled off at cruise level one of the pilots began to feel ill and subsequently became incapacited. The other pilot returned the aircraft to Toronto.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...520Z/CYYZ/MDPC
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Old Sep 7, 2018, 8:42 pm
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Another YYZ fender-bender. 6:52 PM - 7 Sep 2018

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Old Sep 7, 2018, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Another YYZ fender-bender. 6:52 PM - 7 Sep 2018

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/statu...43674260492289
YOW! Whoops meant YYZ but doesn't have same ring as YOW!

-James
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 10:54 am
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Accident: Canada A333 near Bangor on Sep 5th 2018, wake turbulence by B773 injures flight attendant

By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Sep 12th 2018 16:11Z, last updated Wednesday, Sep 12th 2018 16:11ZAn


Air Canada Airbus A330-300, registration C-GHLM performing flight AC-664 from Montreal,QC to Halifax,NS (Canada), was climbing through about FL340 about 60nm northwest of Bangor,ME (USA) when the aircraft encountered wake turbulence causing minor injuries to a flight attendant.

A Swiss International Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration HB-JNI performing flight LX-8 from Zurich (Switzerland) to Chicago O'Hare,IL (USA), was enroute at FL350 and had crossed the flight trajectory of AC-664 about 70 seconds prior to AC-664 reaching the crossing point. About a minute after passing the crossing point LX-8 was cleared and began to climb to FL370.

Both aircraft continued to their destinations for safe landings.

The FAA reported a flight attendant received unknown injuries when the aircraft encountered wake turbulence near Bangor,ME.

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Old Sep 12, 2018, 10:57 am
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Interesting.

I was aware of wake turbulence on takeoff but not at altitude. I wonder how often this occurs.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1
Interesting.

I was aware of wake turbulence on takeoff but not at altitude. I wonder how often this occurs.
My understanding is that at altitude aircrafts are separated at greater distance, so wake turbulence is less a concern.

Also wake turbulence does not stay still, it propagate along the direction of the wind. So the aircraft at downwind may get more severely affected than expected.
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