AC Food & Beverage - Business Class - North America (Jul 2021 - ???)
#526
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
Programs: American Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Silver
Posts: 5,640
June 21, 2022
YUL-YVR
AC309
Boeing 777-300ER
Meal: Dinner
Menu:
Smoked tuna appetizer:
Veal option:
Despite the menu showing a cheese course, and dessert options, they served everything on a single cart, with the after dinner option being cheese OR fruit OR carrot cake (one choice only) (no tiramisu offered despite it being on the menu). I opted for the cheese plate, although I did not take a picture of it.
YUL-YVR
AC309
Boeing 777-300ER
Meal: Dinner
Menu:
Smoked tuna appetizer:
Veal option:
Despite the menu showing a cheese course, and dessert options, they served everything on a single cart, with the after dinner option being cheese OR fruit OR carrot cake (one choice only) (no tiramisu offered despite it being on the menu). I opted for the cheese plate, although I did not take a picture of it.
#527
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
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It's one of many snacks they've been serving for years, but they do have a few different types of things they serve on short-haul.
#528
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
June 21, 2022
YUL-YVR
AC309
Boeing 777-300ER
Meal: Dinner
Menu:
Smoked tuna appetizer:
Veal option:
Despite the menu showing a cheese course, and dessert options, they served everything on a single cart, with the after dinner option being cheese OR fruit OR carrot cake (one choice only) (no tiramisu offered despite it being on the menu). I opted for the cheese plate, although I did not take a picture of it.
YUL-YVR
AC309
Boeing 777-300ER
Meal: Dinner
Menu:
Smoked tuna appetizer:
Veal option:
Despite the menu showing a cheese course, and dessert options, they served everything on a single cart, with the after dinner option being cheese OR fruit OR carrot cake (one choice only) (no tiramisu offered despite it being on the menu). I opted for the cheese plate, although I did not take a picture of it.
Carfield
#529
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,231
#530
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: PERTH
Programs: QF P1 LTG SQ PPS IHG Diamond Elite
Posts: 227
Carfield
Thanks for your observation
North American crew, in general, are unlikely to think of the customer as the focus of their job description during the flight (seasoned flyers know what they are actually thinking and doing!!) despite the rapidly increasing premium fares post-pandemic
Pro-active inflight service is rare
Chats in the galley, doing the bare minimum and the eye roll when the call button is pressed are more common and passengers are often reticent to be politely assertive because of media reports of what can potentially happen if they are
I will be flying Signature from LAX to YYZ return in late August
As a form of assertiveness training 😩😩I will attempt to ask the Cabin Services Manager to clarify the either/or issue in relation to what the menu says and what is actually offered with the fruit/cheese/dessert issue and report back
Thanks for your observation
North American crew, in general, are unlikely to think of the customer as the focus of their job description during the flight (seasoned flyers know what they are actually thinking and doing!!) despite the rapidly increasing premium fares post-pandemic
Pro-active inflight service is rare
Chats in the galley, doing the bare minimum and the eye roll when the call button is pressed are more common and passengers are often reticent to be politely assertive because of media reports of what can potentially happen if they are
I will be flying Signature from LAX to YYZ return in late August
As a form of assertiveness training 😩😩I will attempt to ask the Cabin Services Manager to clarify the either/or issue in relation to what the menu says and what is actually offered with the fruit/cheese/dessert issue and report back
#531
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New England
Programs: American Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Silver
Posts: 5,640
It definitely tasted better than it looked. When I took the photo, I sent it to a friend with the caption "I think there has been a mistake, this appears to be an economy meal!"
I think it was meant to be similar to a stew?
I think it was meant to be similar to a stew?
#532
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
This is getting frustrated and the crews are doing or making up whatever rules now on this cheese or fruit or dessert thing. On my YVR-DUB flight on Monday, the crew told me that it was cheese and fruit or cake! We need to start writing Air Canada now. I have a feeling that the crews are saving the extra portions for themselves. if you want to charge extra for Signature service, it should be fruit and cheese and dessert!
Carfield
Carfield
I think it should be cheese plate + fruit and the cake if you want it! Every other airline in J transcon or intl J -- When offered I've been served cheese with fruit with another dessert.
Last edited by SKYEG; Jun 26, 2022 at 5:15 pm
#533
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,231
It turns out that the elusive PDB (formerly assumed to be extinct) is still available to discrete pax, in some situations:
#534
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,604
It is like service roulette - you never know what you are going to get. The service inconsistency is arguably one of the worst things about being an AC FF and AC J.
#535
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But I haven't been offered any PDB (other than bottled water) on AC since pre-COVID.
#536
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
June 2022
Air Canada Business Class
AC 586 Vancouver to San Francisco
Printed menu is back
Beverage with packaged almonds
Welcome Aboard
Served short after take-off
Appetizer
Heritage mix salad, Brussels sprout, pickled cauliflower, grape tomato
Main Course
Ginger chicken, fried rice, mixed vegetables
Or
Cheese Tortellini, tomato sauce, mozzarella
Dessert
Blueberry cheesecake
221E011 476 GG MH HM to WS West 6/22
June 2022
Air Canada Business Class
AC 553 Los Angeles to Vancouver
Printed menu – but wrong one was loaded[
Breakfast
Served shortly after take-off
Appetizer
Fruit salad, yogurt
Bread, butter, jam
[Croissant wrapped in cling wrap]
Main Course
Parsley omelette, chicken sausage, cottage cheese, roasted potatoes, red pepper relish
Pancakes, chicken sausage, fruit compote, maple butter
222E002 483 US MH HB 06/22
Air Canada Business Class
AC 586 Vancouver to San Francisco
Printed menu is back
Beverage with packaged almonds
Welcome Aboard
Served short after take-off
Appetizer
Heritage mix salad, Brussels sprout, pickled cauliflower, grape tomato
Main Course
Ginger chicken, fried rice, mixed vegetables
Or
Cheese Tortellini, tomato sauce, mozzarella
Dessert
Blueberry cheesecake
221E011 476 GG MH HM to WS West 6/22
June 2022
Air Canada Business Class
AC 553 Los Angeles to Vancouver
Printed menu – but wrong one was loaded[
Breakfast
Served shortly after take-off
Appetizer
Fruit salad, yogurt
Bread, butter, jam
[Croissant wrapped in cling wrap]
Main Course
Parsley omelette, chicken sausage, cottage cheese, roasted potatoes, red pepper relish
Pancakes, chicken sausage, fruit compote, maple butter
222E002 483 US MH HB 06/22
Last edited by Adam Smith; Jul 9, 2022 at 8:02 am Reason: Move content to appropriate thread
#537
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#538
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, NYC
Programs: Marriott Gold, JGC, IHG Platinum, Hilton Gold, AC 25K
Posts: 1,025
Had a op-up today YYZ-LGA to J and the only thing offered was a snack basket with 3 varieties (kit kat, lindt, and chips) with drink service, similar to AA and other US airlines.
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?
#539
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 615
Had a op-up today YYZ-LGA to J and the only thing offered was a snack basket with 3 varieties (kit kat, lindt, and chips) with drink service, similar to AA and other US airlines.
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?
#540
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,187
Had a op-up today YYZ-LGA to J and the only thing offered was a snack basket with 3 varieties (kit kat, lindt, and chips) with drink service, similar to AA and other US airlines.
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?
The other times I flew the route in front on AC was 2015 and 2018, where a fruit plate and charcuterie platter was offered, along with hot towel and drink service.
Is the snack basket due to covid or did it appear long before that?