Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Oct 22, 2020, 10:01 am
#646
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 201
Thanks.
Hmm....just wondering if the proportional deduction would stop us from getting the the total balance of a desired redemption, or if we'd be able to zero the balances if needed.
Hmm....just wondering if the proportional deduction would stop us from getting the the total balance of a desired redemption, or if we'd be able to zero the balances if needed.
Oct 22, 2020, 11:59 am
#647
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,775
It makes it hard to completely zero out an account, because the reward would need to be just enough to zero out both/all accounts. But not impossible. If you have 49.9K in one and 100 in the other, a 50K reward will drain both. But 49.9K and 200, and you'll still have some left.
Oct 22, 2020, 1:27 pm
#649
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 126
Oct 22, 2020, 1:32 pm
#650
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 1
Initial complimentary 50% off vouchers for SEs
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but have AC announced how many 50% off vouchers SEs will receive in lieu of the soon to be cancelled priority rewards? Also, will we be able to carry over e-upgrades to next year?
Oct 22, 2020, 1:41 pm
#651
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,775
Also, will we be able to carry over e-upgrades to next year?
Oct 23, 2020, 7:17 am
#653
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 395
Oct 23, 2020, 8:55 am
#654
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,775
Oct 23, 2020, 9:16 am
#655
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat
Posts: 977
Yes. only 1 seat per plane. I’d book 1 F 1 J and hopefully they release another F close to departure.
Oct 23, 2020, 8:41 pm
#656
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,083
I understand that changes after Nov 8 will re-price under the new award pricing.
But what about is changes are made after travel commences? Say I fly the outbound, and decide to change the inbound. Or if I fly to first stop-over, and decide to make changes to remaining itinerary.
Would they re-price the remaining flights as if it was a new booking? Or do you think they'd try and reprice the entire trip (along with flights already taken).
I'm guessing they'd reprice the entire trip, including flights taken already, otherwise I'm not sure how they'd calculate amount of points to refund.. Hmm..
But what about is changes are made after travel commences? Say I fly the outbound, and decide to change the inbound. Or if I fly to first stop-over, and decide to make changes to remaining itinerary.
Would they re-price the remaining flights as if it was a new booking? Or do you think they'd try and reprice the entire trip (along with flights already taken).
I'm guessing they'd reprice the entire trip, including flights taken already, otherwise I'm not sure how they'd calculate amount of points to refund.. Hmm..
Oct 26, 2020, 2:08 pm
#657
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 77
redeem points now or after new aeroplan starting on 11/9
hi, I am planning to redeem Aeroplan points for a multi city trip YYZ-LHR. LHR-FCO FCO-YYZ next September. I don't know whether I should book it now or after November 9? will the new Aeroplan be better? thank you.
Oct 26, 2020, 2:32 pm
#658
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
With the new program, Intercontinental trips will be more expensive mileage wise, but will no longer attract the extremely hefty fuel surcharges...so it depends what your priority is.
You could book now, and if something better comes along with the new program, you can cancel for free up to Dec 31.
You could book now, and if something better comes along with the new program, you can cancel for free up to Dec 31.
Oct 26, 2020, 5:48 pm
#659
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: NFA
Programs: Air Canada Super Elite, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 72
One of the concierges told me that super elites will also be able to carry over up to 50 e-upgrade credits... not sure if he was mixed up with the credit card perk or if that's going to be a separate carry over that is yet to be formally announced
Oct 26, 2020, 6:26 pm
#660
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 76
Forgive me if this has been answered (I’ve been out of the game for a while). I was looking to book a flight from YVR to YYZ December 17 and return Jan 3 - E50 was going to book flex - what are the best guess of getting upgraded? Not sure how this will work given the new program.
TIA
TIA