LMU (Last Minute Upgrades) fare discussion & questions
May 18, 2017, 10:03 am
#346
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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Same offers still showing, still unable to purchase the PE upgrade.
Seat map shows one available PE seat (14F) - so I'm actually thankful it didn't end up processing. I'm in an exit row aisle, so a move to PE middle seat might be a "slight" downgrade. Anyway, it's a 6.5hr TATL, no big deal.
Seat map shows one available PE seat (14F) - so I'm actually thankful it didn't end up processing. I'm in an exit row aisle, so a move to PE middle seat might be a "slight" downgrade. Anyway, it's a 6.5hr TATL, no big deal.
This does raise an interesting point though, I feel AC should be more open with advertising what the seat selection(s) are. I guess that might risk losing money though.
May 24, 2017, 6:29 am
#348
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May 24, 2017, 6:30 am
#349
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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That's the only official way. In revookings based on IRROPs strange things can though should not occur.
eUp, LMU and (according to AC) bidding all leave mileage accrual alone.
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May 24, 2017, 7:11 am
#350
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 328
Not sure if you are familiar, but while the middle seat isn't ideal for getting out; but the armrest isn't an issue in PY. You get a decent buffer. This is only a bad thing when the cabin is empty you can't just raise the arm rests. But at least it's not HD.
This does raise an interesting point though, I feel AC should be more open with advertising what the seat selection(s) are. I guess that might risk losing money though.
This does raise an interesting point though, I feel AC should be more open with advertising what the seat selection(s) are. I guess that might risk losing money though.
The upgrade bid pricing (and I assume the LMU won't be drastically less) starting at 400CAD for my flight from YUL to YYC seems even more extreme then. No extra miles, no pod/flat bed (since it's a A321 and as such has the "domestic first" type seat) and a meal that I can purchase seperately for 15CAD in economy. Seems like very bad value to me (especcially considering 400CAD is the lowest offer end, with 1200CAD being highest).
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May 24, 2017, 7:23 am
#351
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Ok thanks. That's weird, with Lufthansa you get the P fare amount of miles when you upgrade via upgrade offer. Or maybe LH is a positive exception.
The upgrade bid pricing (and I assume the LMU won't be drastically less) starting at 400CAD for my flight from YUL to YYC seems even more extreme then. No extra miles, no pod/flat bed (since it's a A321 and as such has the "domestic first" type seat) and a meal that I can purchase seperately for 15CAD in economy. Seems like very bad value to me (especcially considering 400CAD is the lowest offer end, with 1200CAD being highest).
The upgrade bid pricing (and I assume the LMU won't be drastically less) starting at 400CAD for my flight from YUL to YYC seems even more extreme then. No extra miles, no pod/flat bed (since it's a A321 and as such has the "domestic first" type seat) and a meal that I can purchase seperately for 15CAD in economy. Seems like very bad value to me (especcially considering 400CAD is the lowest offer end, with 1200CAD being highest).
Bidding is, from what I've read and seen very bad offers. But LMU varies on seats, a bid gives you a higher chance as they clear around t-96.
LMU could be you thousands if J is short. Or not even available. But it could be less than $400, plus tax.
J Dom meals are better than BoB for a 3h flight, imho. Plus free alcohol?
May 24, 2017, 12:52 pm
#352
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May 25, 2017, 5:19 pm
#353
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: London, United Kingdom
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Here's an interesting one:
APR 18th supposed to fly AC865 LHR-YUL. A333 went tango uniform due to a missing wheel on the main gear upon arrival (lol). Rescheduled on AC859 LHR-YYZ B788. LMU from Y tango to J $4974.
APR 18th supposed to fly AC865 LHR-YUL. A333 went tango uniform due to a missing wheel on the main gear upon arrival (lol). Rescheduled on AC859 LHR-YYZ B788. LMU from Y tango to J $4974.
May 25, 2017, 7:18 pm
#354
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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Or it'll go empty.Makes zero sense to me offering those prices. Full J in that route is about $6k, so doing this saves maybe $400... For which you get 150% miles and it's fully refundable. They can't really get takers (can they?) whereas as even 1500 someone might cough under and it doesn't cost that much to provide J service over Y?
I don't think I've ever seen a middle LMU. It's either $1k (+/- $500) or $5k. No $3k? Feel free to search me wrong.
May 25, 2017, 8:27 pm
#355
Join Date: May 2016
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Yeah odds are its J1R0. Seen this a few times. Someone will get a waitlisted eUp clear at the gate Or it'll go empty.
Makes zero sense to me offering those prices. Full J in that route is about $6k, so doing this saves maybe $400... For which you get 150% miles and it's fully refundable. They can't really get takers (can they?) whereas as even 1500 someone might cough under and it doesn't cost that much to provide J service over Y?
I don't think I've ever seen a middle LMU. It's either $1k (+/- $500) or $5k. No $3k? Feel free to search me wrong.
Or it'll go empty.Makes zero sense to me offering those prices. Full J in that route is about $6k, so doing this saves maybe $400... For which you get 150% miles and it's fully refundable. They can't really get takers (can they?) whereas as even 1500 someone might cough under and it doesn't cost that much to provide J service over Y?
I don't think I've ever seen a middle LMU. It's either $1k (+/- $500) or $5k. No $3k? Feel free to search me wrong.
Jun 21, 2017, 5:00 am
#356
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: E35k
Posts: 13
I'm flying from AMS -> YYZ tomorrow afternoon (T-23) and there are no LMU offers on check it.
Is there any chance upgrades will be available closer to departure? Should I check in anyway or does that prevent any chance of an upgrade?
I'm dreading 8+ hours in Y
Is there any chance upgrades will be available closer to departure? Should I check in anyway or does that prevent any chance of an upgrade?
I'm dreading 8+ hours in Y
Jun 21, 2017, 6:20 am
#357
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 576
J8 C8 D8 Z8 P0 R4 O0 E0 N0 Y2 B2 M2 U2 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
Looks like Y may be overbooked so they may look at moving people from Y to J.
Jun 21, 2017, 6:28 am
#358
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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Even if J is full there's still a chance something will open up, but it's unlikely and would be very expensive. But as mentioned from EF there is space, and the upgrade list assuming it's 825 shows 8 spaces in J with no one waiting for an upgrade. It shows Y and PY full.
if they're overbooked by 8 or more, I can see them not offering LMU (yet) though. Check in again, you can even check again at the airport to see what the options are.
if they're overbooked by 8 or more, I can see them not offering LMU (yet) though. Check in again, you can even check again at the airport to see what the options are.
Jun 21, 2017, 6:29 am
#359
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: E35k
Posts: 13
Is it safe to cancel my check in and then do it over again? Y sucks, but getting bumped would be much worse!
Last edited by J.L.C.; Jun 21, 2017 at 7:50 am