AC Rouge A319s getting 2*2 J seating
May 30, 2015, 3:34 pm
#106
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May 30, 2015, 4:15 pm
#107
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I had to travel in rouge a couple of weeks ago and sat in the new seats. They weren't too bad, similar to the 3** J seats, but they did feel a feel a little cramped in terms of pitch. Does anyone know how this new arrangement affects row 4? That was the only row behind the curtain that had any leg room other than the exit rows.
May 30, 2015, 5:08 pm
#108
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I had to travel in rouge a couple of weeks ago and sat in the new seats. They weren't too bad, similar to the 3** J seats, but they did feel a feel a little cramped in terms of pitch. Does anyone know how this new arrangement affects row 4? That was the only row behind the curtain that had any leg room other than the exit rows.
May 30, 2015, 6:19 pm
#109
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Yes but I have own, without a way to hang them PITA as you have to hold or pull tray out and when eating no place to put them
1st world problem, but still a design/layout over sight by AC, put plastic card slot at top of seat for evac card, barf bag, magazine that lets you slide iPad cover in to hang.
Instead of the oversized pocket down below that mouth breathers fill with their garbage. Solves cleaning / grooming issues by not having that lower pocket, you can't fill the upper plastic type with junk
1st world problem, but still a design/layout over sight by AC, put plastic card slot at top of seat for evac card, barf bag, magazine that lets you slide iPad cover in to hang.
Instead of the oversized pocket down below that mouth breathers fill with their garbage. Solves cleaning / grooming issues by not having that lower pocket, you can't fill the upper plastic type with junk
May 30, 2015, 10:32 pm
#110
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May 30, 2015, 11:33 pm
#111
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I flew the new rouge 2x2 from LAX to YVR on thursday night. Also was pleasantly surprised as I wasn't sure which layout we were going to have.
I didn't notice any power - I didn't even really look - just assumed rouge=no power
I'll look harder next time.
iPad - kind of funny it was mentioned up thread, i struggled the whole flight to get the iPad to sit properly on the cover. It kept falling flat.
All in all it's definitely an improvement and I would fly it again up/down the coast.
Mentioned this in another thread; Right beside me was an NBA all star player. He didn't say anything about it but his assistant was definitely not pleased with the "Business Class" setup. They had no idea what Rouge was, just thought it was an AC regular J cabin. He didn't care, which was kind of refreshing!
I didn't notice any power - I didn't even really look - just assumed rouge=no power
I'll look harder next time.iPad - kind of funny it was mentioned up thread, i struggled the whole flight to get the iPad to sit properly on the cover. It kept falling flat.
All in all it's definitely an improvement and I would fly it again up/down the coast.
Mentioned this in another thread; Right beside me was an NBA all star player. He didn't say anything about it but his assistant was definitely not pleased with the "Business Class" setup. They had no idea what Rouge was, just thought it was an AC regular J cabin. He didn't care, which was kind of refreshing!
May 31, 2015, 8:03 pm
#112
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Rather frustrating side-effect of this seating change: row 4 ceases to exist, and all row numbers bump up one. Most passengers unaffected, but who's got two thumbs and bought seat 4C?
This guy!
They put me in the exit row but my preferred seat, larger legroom, and proximity to the front have all been lost. Unimpressed at $50 for little benefit. Planning to complain in hopes of a refund.
This guy!They put me in the exit row but my preferred seat, larger legroom, and proximity to the front have all been lost. Unimpressed at $50 for little benefit. Planning to complain in hopes of a refund.
May 31, 2015, 8:31 pm
#113
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Rather frustrating side-effect of this seating change: row 4 ceases to exist, and all row numbers bump up one. Most passengers unaffected, but who's got two thumbs and bought seat 4C?
This guy!
They put me in the exit row but my preferred seat, larger legroom, and proximity to the front have all been lost. Unimpressed at $50 for little benefit. Planning to complain in hopes of a refund.
This guy!They put me in the exit row but my preferred seat, larger legroom, and proximity to the front have all been lost. Unimpressed at $50 for little benefit. Planning to complain in hopes of a refund.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...9-warning.html
In short:
- 19A and 19F in the revised config are still preferred seats
- if you're not in a preferred seat, you can call in and get a refund
- if you get a really good agent, they will move the pax who do not belong in row 12 to row 13 and put you in your previous seat (i.e. 4A -> 12A etc.)
Jun 1, 2015, 8:51 am
#114
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Read this for more insight into this and my own experiences:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...9-warning.html
In short:
- 19A and 19F in the revised config are still preferred seats
- if you're not in a preferred seat, you can call in and get a refund
- if you get a really good agent, they will move the pax who do not belong in row 12 to row 13 and put you in your previous seat (i.e. 4A -> 12A etc.)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...9-warning.html
In short:
- 19A and 19F in the revised config are still preferred seats
- if you're not in a preferred seat, you can call in and get a refund
- if you get a really good agent, they will move the pax who do not belong in row 12 to row 13 and put you in your previous seat (i.e. 4A -> 12A etc.)
Jun 12, 2015, 12:10 pm
#115
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Location: YYZ
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I flew the new rouge 2x2 from LAX to YVR on thursday night. Also was pleasantly surprised as I wasn't sure which layout we were going to have.
I didn't notice any power - I didn't even really look - just assumed rouge=no power I'll look harder next time.
iPad - kind of funny it was mentioned up thread, i struggled the whole flight to get the iPad to sit properly on the cover. It kept falling flat.
All in all it's definitely an improvement and I would fly it again up/down the coast.
Mentioned this in another thread; Right beside me was an NBA all star player. He didn't say anything about it but his assistant was definitely not pleased with the "Business Class" setup. They had no idea what Rouge was, just thought it was an AC regular J cabin. He didn't care, which was kind of refreshing!
I didn't notice any power - I didn't even really look - just assumed rouge=no power
I'll look harder next time.iPad - kind of funny it was mentioned up thread, i struggled the whole flight to get the iPad to sit properly on the cover. It kept falling flat.
All in all it's definitely an improvement and I would fly it again up/down the coast.
Mentioned this in another thread; Right beside me was an NBA all star player. He didn't say anything about it but his assistant was definitely not pleased with the "Business Class" setup. They had no idea what Rouge was, just thought it was an AC regular J cabin. He didn't care, which was kind of refreshing!
I cant say the same for Y
Jun 14, 2015, 9:09 pm
#117
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Odds are definitely in your favour. I've been watching the Rouge 319's flight plans into Mirabel for conversion. By my count, the last one went in yesterday and if the pattern holds will return to service tomorrow or Tuesday.
Jun 14, 2015, 10:08 pm
#118
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Was talking with 3 rouge FA's outside YVR last week. They said all but 1 fin have been switched over, and the last one should be done within a week or so.
Jun 16, 2015, 12:03 pm
#119
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It looks like they are all done. This morning (Jun 16) a Rouge 319 flew from Mirabel to YYZ and for the first time since this started in late April, there was no inbound 319 right before it. If anyone is looking for the conversion history, you can look up the flights out of YMX on flightaware as flight ROU7093. The inbounds were ROU7092 (most of the time).