Originally Posted by why fly

No hes not? UA 747 upper deck is light years ahead of AC seats! ^
you need to get out and try other airlines

Originally Posted by Clipper801

The only thing that I don't like about UA 747 upper deck is the size of the overhead bin. It would not fit a standard size cabin trolley bag. You have to leave it in the closet at the landing as one climbs up the stairs.

Originally Posted by Transpacificflyer

I can only comment on the Asian routes and I disagree vehemently.
I consider the UA B777 2-4-2 config a ripoff and I assume the 4 seats is where UA sticks its upgrade coupon pax. Nothing is worse than being squashed in that row. I had the misfortune of looking back on those poor suckers on a few flights. My experience with F class on UA out of ORD was depressing. It was no better than J on AC. AC food was superior to UA on all of my flights. If you ever had the UA dried out entrees on the Asian flights you will understand my opinion. The only thing better on UA is the wine. The IFE is no better than AC's, although the Japanese routes did offer a wider selection of Asian films than found on AC.

I am unhappy with AC, but as much as I criticize the airline, I try to be fair. It is ridiculous to compare the garbage offered by UA to AC. IMO UA is a 2*- 2 1/2* airline and it caters to a clientele who haven't a clue as to quality, and are afraid of anything that isn't produced in an institutional kitchen specializing in saturated fat, sodium, imitation flavours and mystery ingredients. UA might as well contract out its catering to Jack in the Box or Popeye's Fried Chicken. I anticipate that one day UA will offer a hotdog casserole with jello pudding cups to its J class pax and call it "retro gourmet" dining.

Originally Posted by Dorian

Oh come on....those were insane comparisons. I literally laughed out loud.

Originally Posted by bocastephen

Really? Perhaps you'd like to share the specifics about what is either funny, or wrong about the comparison?

Originally Posted by Transpacificflyer

I can only comment on the Asian routes and I disagree vehemently.
I consider the UA B777 2-4-2 config a ripoff and I assume the 4 seats is where UA sticks its upgrade coupon pax. Nothing is worse than being squashed in that row. I had the misfortune of looking back on those poor suckers on a few flights. My experience with F class on UA out of ORD was depressing. It was no better than J on AC. AC food was superior to UA on all of my flights. If you ever had the UA dried out entrees on the Asian flights you will understand my opinion. The only thing better on UA is the wine. The IFE is no better than AC's, although the Japanese routes did offer a wider selection of Asian films than found on AC.

I am unhappy with AC, but as much as I criticize the airline, I try to be fair. It is ridiculous to compare the garbage offered by UA to AC. IMO UA is a 2*- 2 1/2* airline and it caters to a clientele who haven't a clue as to quality, and are afraid of anything that isn't produced in an institutional kitchen specializing in saturated fat, sodium, imitation flavours and mystery ingredients. UA might as well contract out its catering to Jack in the Box or Popeye's Fried Chicken. I anticipate that one day UA will offer a hotdog casserole with jello pudding cups to its J class pax and call it "retro gourmet" dining.

Originally Posted by Dorian

The post above (1183) summarizes it for you.

Originally Posted by bocastephen

Catering wise, I think we'll agree to disagree - disgusting, inedible food is a brand hallmark of Air Canada. UA might not offer anything close to a restaurant meal, but they deliver consistently better food than AC and I've had both.

Originally Posted by bocastephen

Which is factually incorrect, and a misunderstanding of my original post content wrt the aircraft types.

Originally Posted by RCyyz

My $0.02 on UA J vs AC J:

• As others point out, the 2-4-2 config on UA is pitiful vs the 1-2-1 on AC. I also find the front / back seating on UA detracts from a feeling of privacy.
• UA IFE is way better than AC. I rarely use AC IFE because I find there's nothing interesting. I almost always use UA IFE.
• UA 747 upper deck is something I like very much. It's a much better 2-2 config upstairs and I like being up in the hump.
• UA J seats are still on the narrow side, but nowhere near as tight as AC pods which I find are just downright squishy around the shoulders and in the foot rest.
• AC food is OK, UA food is OK too. In general I somewhat prefer UA food but it's not a huge difference. That said, the UA ice cream sundaes are a fun treat that I always enjoy.
• Upgrading on UA carries the usual R-space challenges, but at least it's do-able in a consistent fashion unlike AC where you pay big bucks for a Flex fare with no guarantee that you'll get anything other than a seat in the back of the bus.
• UA J fares are often less than AC J fares. Sure there's the inevitable transfer in the US, but that's typically a small thing compared to the price difference.

One other point with UA - buy a J fare (or even a P or Z fare) and subject to availability you can upgrade to F using points. Granted UA F is nothing compared to a real F product, but it's much better than UA J and AC J as well. The UA F pods are quite nice with lots of space both for sitting / sleeping and for storing your bits (iPad, iPod, headphone etc).

Originally Posted by Diabeetus

I was just looking at tickets to go to LHR next summer, and just noticed that YUL - LHR is on the 777 HD as well (previously served by the 333 I believe).

I don't know if this was announced at all.

Originally Posted by mapleg

Thought I would book something to Japan May 2015 and just realized that AC is now using the 77W in May to HND That ends that plan right now.

Guess I will have to look at NRT instead of HND, or pick another carrier.

Originally Posted by ChrisA330

Why? What's wrong with the original 77W? This isn't the HD version - at least not yet.