May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Feb 17, 2019, 4:12 pm
#7786
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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Just back from BGI. Have a really good tale to tell about January 31st AC1714 flight that was,then about 6pm that day ,was not.
Feb 20, 2019, 7:00 am
#7787
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
Just noticed YYZ-YQT/YQT-YYZ has been partially rouged as of May... It's now a mix of Rouge A319 and Jazz Q400. This is not a move I expected for this partiular route O_o. Regular jet service to YQT again.
Feb 20, 2019, 12:46 pm
#7789
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,997
It will ALL go rouge at some point. AC loves the lower operating costs and couldn't care less about anyone's experience, FFs included.
Feb 20, 2019, 2:00 pm
#7790
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
I'm also unsure of the big capacity boost + operating costs of the A319 vs Q400 in markets liek YQT and YQM.
Feb 21, 2019, 6:38 am
#7791
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
Apparently my May 1st YQT-YYZ-LHR has been changed (with NO email notification of course) and I have been out on Rouge. 4.5 hours earlier (so now an 8 (!) hour layover in YYZ). In Rouge Y, and not PY/J. On an international J fare.
This is not at all acceptable. At all.
Also seems there's big frequency slash. All Q400 flights are now gone. 2 or 3 Rouge flights a day as opposed to the 4-6 DH4 flights. Goody.
EDIT: Phoned in, and got it fixed up. FYI for anyone else in this situation: They will move you to Premium Rouge, but you have to phone in. Auto-booker always selects Y.
This is not at all acceptable. At all.
Also seems there's big frequency slash. All Q400 flights are now gone. 2 or 3 Rouge flights a day as opposed to the 4-6 DH4 flights. Goody.
EDIT: Phoned in, and got it fixed up. FYI for anyone else in this situation: They will move you to Premium Rouge, but you have to phone in. Auto-booker always selects Y.
Last edited by D404; Feb 21, 2019 at 7:36 am
Feb 21, 2019, 8:02 am
#7792
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: YXU, ON Canada
Programs: AC LT E50K; AC*MM; SPG LT Gold
Posts: 4,665
Not that I've noticed, but it always irks me to see Rouge routinely referred to as a "low cost airline" (see CBC report today on new YXU-YYC Rouge service), when there is little, if any difference between them and mainline. Low cost for AC maybe, but not for passengers. And they never get called out for it, 
Feb 21, 2019, 8:10 am
#7793
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Not that I've noticed, but it always irks me to see Rouge routinely referred to as a "low cost airline" (see CBC report today on new YXU-YYC Rouge service), when there is little, if any difference between them and mainline. Low cost for AC maybe, but not for passengers. And they never get called out for it,
Until AC decides to notify the media that rouge only cost them less - and not the pax - this myth will continue. Seems to be working, planes are full, right?
Feb 21, 2019, 8:24 am
#7794
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
Not that I've noticed, but it always irks me to see Rouge routinely referred to as a "low cost airline" (see CBC report today on new YXU-YYC Rouge service), when there is little, if any difference between them and mainline. Low cost for AC maybe, but not for passengers. And they never get called out for it,
Feb 21, 2019, 2:48 pm
#7796
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Location: SFO
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Apparently my May 1st YQT-YYZ-LHR has been changed (with NO email notification of course) and I have been out on Rouge. 4.5 hours earlier (so now an 8 (!) hour layover in YYZ). In Rouge Y, and not PY/J. On an international J fare.
This is not at all acceptable. At all.
Also seems there's big frequency slash. All Q400 flights are now gone. 2 or 3 Rouge flights a day as opposed to the 4-6 DH4 flights. Goody.
EDIT: Phoned in, and got it fixed up. FYI for anyone else in this situation: They will move you to Premium Rouge, but you have to phone in. Auto-booker always selects Y.
This is not at all acceptable. At all.
Also seems there's big frequency slash. All Q400 flights are now gone. 2 or 3 Rouge flights a day as opposed to the 4-6 DH4 flights. Goody.
EDIT: Phoned in, and got it fixed up. FYI for anyone else in this situation: They will move you to Premium Rouge, but you have to phone in. Auto-booker always selects Y.
Feb 21, 2019, 2:56 pm
#7797
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
And most of my annoyance came from the lack of notifcation
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Feb 21, 2019, 4:23 pm
#7798
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: YOW
Programs: AC*SEMM, *G, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 897
ACR launching YXU-YYC Seasonal Summer Services
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...London-Ontario
Morning departure from YXU and afternoon departure from YYC
Morning departure from YXU and afternoon departure from YYC
Feb 21, 2019, 5:30 pm
#7799
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,003
https://atwonline.com/airports-route...express-fleets
The moves come as Air Canada prepares to add 10 aircraft to its 53-aircraft rouge fleet in 2019.
The leisure subsidiary’s expansion was cleared through a 2017 amendment to its pilot agreement that permits adding narrowbodies based on a formula linked to its mainline fleet size. It also permits rouge aircraft to replace regional feeder flying.
"Quote: Originally Posted by D404
Is Rouge cheaper than Jazz, though? (I honestly don't know here.)"
I don't know the number myself. Two DH8's vs. one A319. Can't be that much difference in cost.
Feb 22, 2019, 9:57 am
#7800
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
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A Rouge A319 is definitely better than a Q400 but, in term of schedule, it's bad.