May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
May 25, 2019, 2:15 pm
#7937
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
You mean like YYC-YYZ? Oh wait, they're doing that now.
The airline exists to create profits for shareholders. If they can cut labour costs in half, don't think for one second they won't do it. Business travelers put up with 777 HD seating, reduced FF benefits and a world of other enhancements AC has introduced over the years, they will adapt to this as well. Because the choices are AC or Westjet, and that's it.
If you think for one second that AC gives a hoot about you or that your opinion somehow matters to them, then you, my friend, are the one with the crazy ideas. Calin has made it abundantly clear that profit trumps all else.
The airline exists to create profits for shareholders. If they can cut labour costs in half, don't think for one second they won't do it. Business travelers put up with 777 HD seating, reduced FF benefits and a world of other enhancements AC has introduced over the years, they will adapt to this as well. Because the choices are AC or Westjet, and that's it.
If you think for one second that AC gives a hoot about you or that your opinion somehow matters to them, then you, my friend, are the one with the crazy ideas. Calin has made it abundantly clear that profit trumps all else.
Years claiming AC's LCC initiatives would backfire have been replaced w fear mongering prognostications those same LCC initiatives will be everywhere. All the while, AC has blown the doors off the airline business in recent years.
Now claiming the profit seeking entity will do what it can to, umm, maximize profit. Keep up the great insight and sharp predictions
Last edited by tcook052; May 25, 2019 at 5:33 pm
May 26, 2019, 10:53 am
#7938
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 40
AC Rouge Premium seating
Hi all,
Need some help please. I have just booked 3 tickets on the MAN-YYZ Air Canada Rouge 767-300 in Premium Rouge. First four rows on seat map. Not many reviews on Seat Guru for this cabin so can anybody tell me whether row 1 is good as it’s at the front or if legroom is really tight due to it being at the front? Should we go for row 2 or even row 4 at the back of the cabin?
Many thanks in advance.
Need some help please. I have just booked 3 tickets on the MAN-YYZ Air Canada Rouge 767-300 in Premium Rouge. First four rows on seat map. Not many reviews on Seat Guru for this cabin so can anybody tell me whether row 1 is good as it’s at the front or if legroom is really tight due to it being at the front? Should we go for row 2 or even row 4 at the back of the cabin?
Many thanks in advance.
May 26, 2019, 11:18 am
#7939
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,569
I would never book a bulkhead for my feet. I don't remember one way or another how bad it was (and I'm 6'2), but the lack of bag space was intolerable.
May 26, 2019, 12:56 pm
#7940
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ideally YOW, but probably not
Programs: AC SE*MM
Posts: 1,827
Flew in row 1 of an ACr 767 recently from Europe to North America and the bulkhead does restrict your "stretch" room a bit (I am also about 6'2") but it comes with the benefit of nobody reclining in to your face. Bag only needs to be up for takeoff and landing, when I was in the air I grabbed my laptop out of the overhead and was perfectly content.
May 26, 2019, 1:45 pm
#7941
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,195
No WOW branding, new AC Rouge paint, has generic AC rouge seat covers.
It does have AC Rouge Streaming wifi enabled.
22A is the best seat - ~7 feet of legroom
21BE arguably the second best - ~4 feet of legroom
22F ~4 feet of legroom, rear-facing crew jumpseat (and crew member at takeoff/landingr) taking up 30% of the legroom
First several rows have much more legroom than others, but only row #1 is being sold as preferred.
Row 22DE and further back have an inhumane amount of legroom. I'd venture to say 26-28 inch seat pitch.
May 31, 2019, 8:25 pm
#7942
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
One of my 7M8 flights got rouged (763).... anyway to know what's going to be on Rouge Player (iPads)? Is it the same as mainline IFEs?
May 31, 2019, 8:32 pm
#7943
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
Q1 M&A reports another 5 A320s and 6 A321s to be added to Rouge (with last 787-9 delivered, the fleet can grow unfettered). Are these 5 A320s supposed to be coming from mainline, or is AC buying newer frames (not hard, A320s are being retired all over the place). Are the 321s going to be all economy or is AC committed to converting the old WOW aircraft to a proper cabin?
Jun 1, 2019, 4:34 pm
#7944
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
Jun 3, 2019, 3:34 pm
#7945
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 31
sub-rouged?
Went to e-up 1675 on 06/11 (YYZ->MCO), a flight I've taken many times before, and lucky (?) enough to upgrade almost every time. But, e-up site said "no business class cabin on this flight", a call to the call center confirmed this.
It's a 321-200, and I thought all of those had business class, or at least Premium Rouge.
Is this a new thing? I still feel like it might be a system problem but maybe it's due to all the MAX issues, idk.
Any thoughts?
It's a 321-200, and I thought all of those had business class, or at least Premium Rouge.
Is this a new thing? I still feel like it might be a system problem but maybe it's due to all the MAX issues, idk.
Any thoughts?
Jun 3, 2019, 4:04 pm
#7947
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 38
Went to e-up 1675 on 06/11 (YYZ->MCO), a flight I've taken many times before, and lucky (?) enough to upgrade almost every time. But, e-up site said "no business class cabin on this flight", a call to the call center confirmed this.
It's a 321-200, and I thought all of those had business class, or at least Premium Rouge.
Is this a new thing? I still feel like it might be a system problem but maybe it's due to all the MAX issues, idk.
Any thoughts?
It's a 321-200, and I thought all of those had business class, or at least Premium Rouge.
Is this a new thing? I still feel like it might be a system problem but maybe it's due to all the MAX issues, idk.
Any thoughts?
Last edited by northerncoalminer; Jun 3, 2019 at 4:41 pm
Jun 3, 2019, 4:12 pm
#7948
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYJ/YYT
Programs: AC 75K (*G), NEXUS
Posts: 652
Jun 3, 2019, 7:22 pm
#7949
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YLW
Programs: AC- SE100 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, National Executive, Nexus/GE
Posts: 4,313
Had to book a flight with a YYZ connection, and I am blown away by the number of Rouge possibilities. It's like a minefield looking and avoiding Rouge for booking flights now!
Jun 3, 2019, 7:51 pm
#7950
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
Even if you do, no guarantee you won't get Rouge with an equipment swap either. Gonna be dicey without the MAX.