May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
May 24, 2019, 8:06 am
#7924
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan E50/MM, HH gold, Nat Exec Elite, Kimpton Karma
Posts: 2,354
And below that item about Duncan (using the link) is an item about upgrading the Premium Rouge experience including gourmet food! Don’t even get that on international flights in J.
May 24, 2019, 8:27 am
#7925
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,232
"gourmet food" - as 'good' as mainline J?
May 24, 2019, 11:11 am
#7926
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: YOW
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 583
Noticed while looking at the updated schedule that was just posted in the '737 Max Effects on AC Thread' that 1680 YYJ-YYZ is switching to Rouge A320 for a brief period this summer. Didn't realize that Rouge had received any 320s yet, so looked on the AC fleet website and looks like the first was just received this week. C-GFCH flew from LCQ (Lake City Gateway) to YYZ on the 22nd. Haven't seen any pictures posted of this bird yet, but I assume it's been repainted. Looks like it came from storage, previously owned by Interjet up until January.
May 24, 2019, 9:36 pm
#7927
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan E50/MM, HH gold, Nat Exec Elite, Kimpton Karma
Posts: 2,354
May 25, 2019, 6:45 am
#7928
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
YOW goes Rouge
Seems every AC flight exYOW south of DCA is being converted from mainline A320 to Rouge A319
May 25, 2019, 8:58 am
#7929
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
Lots of previous mainline flights are rouge. Even trunk routes (YYC-YYZ, YVR/YYC-YUL) have significant Rouge. You don't ground 24 aircraft (with 12 more expected to be in service) without some creativity. Sucks but that's what we got for now.
May 25, 2019, 9:16 am
#7930
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,997
It's not "for now." AC already rouged a huge number of its domestic and transborder flights long before the MAX situation arose. Eventually, rouge will replace ALL mainline routes ... as older pilots, FAs and SDs retire they will not be replaced by well-paid mainline employees, but by "rouge crews" earning half as much for the same work.
May 25, 2019, 9:51 am
#7931
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 669
It's not "for now." AC already rouged a huge number of its domestic and transborder flights long before the MAX situation arose. Eventually, rouge will replace ALL mainline routes ... as older pilots, FAs and SDs retire they will not be replaced by well-paid mainline employees, but by "rouge crews" earning half as much for the same work.
May 25, 2019, 10:58 am
#7932
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
They'll route the 319s YOW-Florida-YOW-Carribbean-YOW most days. Off the blocks 6am, back in YOW around 1230a. It was just a matter of time.
I see Halifax has gone Rouge as well. They added some freq to get the critical mass.
May 25, 2019, 11:29 am
#7933
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,898
It's not "for now." AC already rouged a huge number of its domestic and transborder flights long before the MAX situation arose. Eventually, rouge will replace ALL mainline routes ... as older pilots, FAs and SDs retire they will not be replaced by well-paid mainline employees, but by "rouge crews" earning half as much for the same work.
May 25, 2019, 11:50 am
#7934
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,997
The airline exists to create profits for shareholders. If they can cut labour costs in half, don't think for one second they won't do it. Business travelers put up with 777 HD seating, reduced FF benefits and a world of other enhancements AC has introduced over the years, they will adapt to this as well. Because the choices are AC or Westjet, and that's it.
If you think for one second that AC gives a hoot about you or that your opinion somehow matters to them, then you, my friend, are the one with the crazy ideas. Calin has made it abundantly clear that profit trumps all else.
May 25, 2019, 12:38 pm
#7935
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 669
My opinion may or may not matter to AC too, but I have received invitations 3x in the last in the last 12 years to discuss what I like/dislike flying with AC. I would hope these round table discussions with other FF would make it up the food chain.
So, does AC care about their pax. I would think that’s a yes no answer. Yes to high rev FF, but no to low end traveller where $5 will cause them to switch airlines. These lower end pax is where WS excelled, but time/cost caught up to WS on this category, which is why their stock price has fallen and they were forced to changed their business model.