May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
May 23, 2016, 7:07 am
#6421
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: aeroplan, delta, aa
Posts: 125
Thanks. They are business class, not Premium Rouge. They are on a 767-300. Seat Guru calls them Open Suites. I am not surprised to hear they are not lie-flats but I was sure hoping -- we still have to go on from Vancouver to Ontario and it is one long journey home.
Were the seats comfortable at least?
Were the seats comfortable at least?
May 23, 2016, 7:29 am
#6422
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: YTZ
Posts: 502
Thanks. They are business class, not Premium Rouge. They are on a 767-300. Seat Guru calls them Open Suites. I am not surprised to hear they are not lie-flats but I was sure hoping -- we still have to go on from Vancouver to Ontario and it is one long journey home.
Were the seats comfortable at least?
Were the seats comfortable at least?
This is what you want.
Premium rouge on North American flights is business class, whereas on international it's premium economy.
As for comfort, they're okay for short flights. Last time I was on one my butt started hurting after an hour.
May 23, 2016, 8:11 am
#6423
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 67
On flights where they do fill out the number I usually ask for a blank form instead because I'm always one form ahead (I fill them out in advance on the ground so I don't have to mess around with them onboard and it's never a certainty that my next return flight will be the same segment).
May 23, 2016, 8:14 am
#6424
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: AC*SE; AC 2MM; Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 621
... of course a somewhat personal and subjective answer - I found them to be 'OK' in recline mode, but really uncomfortable when upright. In general not great, but passable ... let's just say after 6 hours I was glad to be getting off the plane.
May 23, 2016, 8:25 am
#6425
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: aeroplan, delta, aa
Posts: 125
You're looking at the wrong seat map, you're looking at main line 763s, which have the classic business class pod.
This is what you want.
Premium rouge on North American flights is business class, whereas on international it's premium economy.
As for comfort, they're okay for short flights. Last time I was on one my butt started hurting after an hour.
This is what you want.
Premium rouge on North American flights is business class, whereas on international it's premium economy.
As for comfort, they're okay for short flights. Last time I was on one my butt started hurting after an hour.
May 23, 2016, 9:00 am
#6426
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
I am booked on this particular 757 variant (version 2) from HNL to DEN this winter with lie flat seats:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...57/200/v2.aspx
The price was significantly cheaper than what ACr was demanding for the same day.
May 23, 2016, 1:02 pm
#6427
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: aeroplan, delta, aa
Posts: 125
Some UA flights from HNL to the mainland are operated with lie-flat seats.
I am booked on this particular 757 variant (version 2) from HNL to DEN this winter with lie flat seats:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...57/200/v2.aspx
The price was significantly cheaper than what ACr was demanding for the same day.
I am booked on this particular 757 variant (version 2) from HNL to DEN this winter with lie flat seats:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...57/200/v2.aspx
The price was significantly cheaper than what ACr was demanding for the same day.
May 23, 2016, 5:41 pm
#6428
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ/YUL
Programs: UA 1K, AC nadda, DL, WS-Nadda
Posts: 1,476
flying the 11:30pm HNL YVR flight in PY connecting to an early YYZ flight in Y.
Made me very thankful to be flying to YYZ via EWR in J with pmco lieflats on the 764.
May 23, 2016, 7:50 pm
#6429
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan E50/MM, HH gold, Nat Exec Elite, Kimpton Karma
Posts: 2,354
If you want to be a pretzel when you arrive, seats are fine. I found the one flight I did extremely uncomfortable in PR. I can't even imagine what it would be like in the back. The flight was 6+ hrs.
May 23, 2016, 11:48 pm
#6430
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, Global Entry
Posts: 771
UA lie flat is presently offered HNL SFO, EWR and DEN. You will have to check sked to find out exact times, since some flights have shifted for the summer. UA is re-configuring their HNL ( domestic ) 777s to add lie flat, I think the first of these has just entered service. In peak times UA has subbed 3 class 744's on the SFO and Ord HNL routes. I have run into the rouge crowd in the UC in HNL
flying the 11:30pm HNL YVR flight in PY connecting to an early YYZ flight in Y.
Made me very thankful to be flying to YYZ via EWR in J with pmco lieflats on the 764.
flying the 11:30pm HNL YVR flight in PY connecting to an early YYZ flight in Y.
Made me very thankful to be flying to YYZ via EWR in J with pmco lieflats on the 764.
Last edited by Taoyuan; May 23, 2016 at 11:59 pm
May 24, 2016, 4:19 am
#6431
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: aeroplan, delta, aa
Posts: 125
UA lie flat is presently offered HNL SFO, EWR and DEN. You will have to check sked to find out exact times, since some flights have shifted for the summer. UA is re-configuring their HNL ( domestic ) 777s to add lie flat, I think the first of these has just entered service. In peak times UA has subbed 3 class 744's on the SFO and Ord HNL routes. I have run into the rouge crowd in the UC in HNL
flying the 11:30pm HNL YVR flight in PY connecting to an early YYZ flight in Y.
Made me very thankful to be flying to YYZ via EWR in J with pmco lieflats on the 764.
flying the 11:30pm HNL YVR flight in PY connecting to an early YYZ flight in Y.
Made me very thankful to be flying to YYZ via EWR in J with pmco lieflats on the 764.
May 24, 2016, 8:45 am
#6432
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
YYZHNL gets a haircut
YYZHNL getting trimmed next Winter. First flight not until Christmas day and frequency chopped to 1*weekly.
I didn't think this route would even be brought back or survive this long. One foot in the grave for sure.
I didn't think this route would even be brought back or survive this long. One foot in the grave for sure.
May 24, 2016, 9:05 am
#6433
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
The premium that ACr has demanded for PR on this non-stop direct service is ridiculous. One can fly UA for about half the cost albeit requiring 1~2 stops, depending on the itinerary selected. 2 stops are more expensive than 1 stop.
Some of the UA flights have lie flat seats (their version of international business class seat).
May 24, 2016, 9:15 am
#6434
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*G) WS Gold | SPG/Fairmont Plat Hilton/Hyatt Diamond Marriott Silver | National Exec Elite
Posts: 19,284
I don't know why ACr has chosen to operate this weekly flight on a Sunday. Saturday would make more sense.
The premium that ACr has demanded for PR on this non-stop direct service is ridiculous. One can fly UA for about half the cost albeit requiring 1~2 stops, depending on the itinerary selected. 2 stops are more expensive than 1 stop.
Some of the UA flights have lie flat seats (their version of international business class seat).
The premium that ACr has demanded for PR on this non-stop direct service is ridiculous. One can fly UA for about half the cost albeit requiring 1~2 stops, depending on the itinerary selected. 2 stops are more expensive than 1 stop.
Some of the UA flights have lie flat seats (their version of international business class seat).
I value my time. If I can fly non stop I will. What's the price differential?
I really really detest stops. It's just a "thing" that I care about. I realize the UA hard product may be better, but again, I detest stops
