May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Feb 22, 2019, 10:21 am
#7801
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,997
Feb 22, 2019, 11:12 am
#7802
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
Yeah. And for such short feeder flights, I will take Q400 Y over Premium Rouge A319 every day of the week. Frequency and convenience is king for short feeders.
Feb 22, 2019, 2:30 pm
#7803
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Aeroplan Elite for life; Fairmont Platinum; Delta Platinum Plus
Posts: 324
Feb 24, 2019, 3:50 pm
#7804
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 12,068
Was on AC flight Las Vegas to Edmonton on Friday. Flight scheduled ACr.
The menus ,meals and napkins were ACr ,staff mainline.
More of an FYI
The menus ,meals and napkins were ACr ,staff mainline.
More of an FYI
Feb 24, 2019, 6:33 pm
#7805
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YLW
Programs: AC- SE100 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, National Executive, Nexus/GE
Posts: 4,313
AC1944 Saturday Feb 23
WOW, I remember now why I do not fly Rouge!
Not really going to describe the trip, just wow! Now I have to get back!
WOW, I remember now why I do not fly Rouge!
Not really going to describe the trip, just wow! Now I have to get back!
Feb 24, 2019, 7:01 pm
#7806
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,516
Was it a mainline or rouge plane? If a last minute swap to mainline, makes sense that the catering has rouge logos in it. Cosmetic difference only.
Feb 25, 2019, 4:05 am
#7807
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 12,068
Mainline aircraft.
Las Vegas McCarran was a mess last Thursday. I got to see measurable snowfall at LAS from Amex Lounge (1st time since records kept back to 1937)
Staff at LAS are contracted . There were significant cancellations . I was on a latitude pass and by the time I got
rebooked and home it was Sunday afternoon and involved 4 more cancellations, two route changes, 3 unintended
overnights including one at Edmonton(I like that airport, been a while) and eventually a one way car rental to YSB once I got to YYZ.
My 2nd such event this year, other was to BGI.
AC concierge service was very sympathetic and SE desk tried hard to get things done. I cannot imagine what others went through.
You roll with the punches. I met some fascinating people ,got to know an AC FA that worked the flight to Edmonton Friday and was Deadheading
back next day with me to YYZ. I offered up my pancakes for the omelette
.
This winter has been the worst for my travels. I "normally" get 1-2 forced overnights a year. I am at 5 already.Have collected "a few
" discount codes and credits
Next weekend I transit ORD. Lets see what comes next
Las Vegas McCarran was a mess last Thursday. I got to see measurable snowfall at LAS from Amex Lounge (1st time since records kept back to 1937)
Staff at LAS are contracted . There were significant cancellations . I was on a latitude pass and by the time I got
rebooked and home it was Sunday afternoon and involved 4 more cancellations, two route changes, 3 unintended
overnights including one at Edmonton(I like that airport, been a while) and eventually a one way car rental to YSB once I got to YYZ.
My 2nd such event this year, other was to BGI.
AC concierge service was very sympathetic and SE desk tried hard to get things done. I cannot imagine what others went through.
You roll with the punches. I met some fascinating people ,got to know an AC FA that worked the flight to Edmonton Friday and was Deadheading
back next day with me to YYZ. I offered up my pancakes for the omelette
.This winter has been the worst for my travels. I "normally" get 1-2 forced overnights a year. I am at 5 already.Have collected "a few
" discount codes and creditsNext weekend I transit ORD. Lets see what comes next
Feb 25, 2019, 6:30 pm
#7808
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YEG
Programs: AC*SE, Marriott Plat, Natl Exec, NEXUS
Posts: 437
Mainline aircraft.
Las Vegas McCarran was a mess last Thursday. I got to see measurable snowfall at LAS from Amex Lounge (1st time since records kept back to 1937)
Staff at LAS are contracted . There were significant cancellations . I was on a latitude pass and by the time I got
rebooked and home it was Sunday afternoon and involved 4 more cancellations, two route changes, 3 unintended
overnights including one at Edmonton(I like that airport, been a while) and eventually a one way car rental to YSB once I got to YYZ.
My 2nd such event this year, other was to BGI.
AC concierge service was very sympathetic and SE desk tried hard to get things done. I cannot imagine what others went through.
You roll with the punches. I met some fascinating people ,got to know an AC FA that worked the flight to Edmonton Friday and was Deadheading
back next day with me to YYZ. I offered up my pancakes for the omelette.
This winter has been the worst for my travels. I "normally" get 1-2 forced overnights a year. I am at 5 already.Have collected "a few " discount codes and credits
Next weekend I transit ORD. Lets see what comes next
Las Vegas McCarran was a mess last Thursday. I got to see measurable snowfall at LAS from Amex Lounge (1st time since records kept back to 1937)
Staff at LAS are contracted . There were significant cancellations . I was on a latitude pass and by the time I got
rebooked and home it was Sunday afternoon and involved 4 more cancellations, two route changes, 3 unintended
overnights including one at Edmonton(I like that airport, been a while) and eventually a one way car rental to YSB once I got to YYZ.
My 2nd such event this year, other was to BGI.
AC concierge service was very sympathetic and SE desk tried hard to get things done. I cannot imagine what others went through.
You roll with the punches. I met some fascinating people ,got to know an AC FA that worked the flight to Edmonton Friday and was Deadheading
back next day with me to YYZ. I offered up my pancakes for the omelette
.This winter has been the worst for my travels. I "normally" get 1-2 forced overnights a year. I am at 5 already.Have collected "a few
" discount codes and creditsNext weekend I transit ORD. Lets see what comes next
But LAS was an absolute mess, and AC seemed to be worse off than a lot of other airlines that managed to get their flights out. I know there were cancellations and severe delays on YYC, YUL and YYZ too.
Mar 2, 2019, 9:53 am
#7809
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
The disease spreads (from airlineroute)
Montreal – St. John’s NFLD eff 05JUN19 2 daily A319
Toronto – Fredericton eff 01JUN19 2 daily A319
Toronto – Moncton eff 01MAY19 3 daily A319
Toronto – Thunder Bay eff 01MAY19 3 daily A319
Montreal – St. John’s NFLD eff 05JUN19 2 daily A319
Toronto – Fredericton eff 01JUN19 2 daily A319
Toronto – Moncton eff 01MAY19 3 daily A319
Toronto – Thunder Bay eff 01MAY19 3 daily A319
Mar 2, 2019, 10:16 am
#7810
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
Several FTers had suggested, more than five years ago, that eventually domestic non-premium routes will all be Rouged.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:03 am
#7811
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
I wonder when AC will stop marketing Rouge as a "leisure" airline for "vacations".
Mar 2, 2019, 11:19 am
#7812
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,997
Don't laugh - it wasn't that long ago that we were all told it would only be used for holiday routes, and never for mainline domestic service. Now look.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:21 am
#7813
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
My view was that all North American routes would eventually be rouged - except the PLH routes - was based on the increasing number of routes that were rouged even back then, the increase to the rouge fleet, and comments from some employees (who I am sure some here will dismiss).
Here we are in Feb 2019. There has been an update/revision to the pilot contract, there have been some new aircraft purchases for rouge, there are more routes that now have rouge flights or are only rouge.
To be clear: As I wrote back then, I had and have no issue with the strategic launch and deployment of rouge. I only had an issue with the tactical execution (as we call it in my business). It didn't help that our first rouge trip in Dec 2013 was an absolute disaster in terms of crew, pax, ground services at destination, and the free back massage courtesy of the poor guy sitting behind with nowhere to put his legs except for the back of our seats. I also determined that I would much prefer to fly DL via ATL than ever do this again.
I will add that of the 6 rouge flights on the YQB-YYZ routes that I flew last year, I noted improvement in the experience in terms of some of the rouge cabin crew and service.
Rouge serves a purpose for AC and no doubt they are making buckets of bucks because of the profit versus cost differential. But we still have other choices.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:22 am
#7814
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
I originally imagined rouge would last a year or two then vanish, like Zip and Tango before it. To my horror that wasn't the case, as Calin and crew came to like what it did for their bonuses. What concerns me now is that rouge will ultimately wind up replacing mainline altogether on all routes..
Don't laugh - it wasn't that long ago that we were all told it would only be used for holiday routes, and never for mainline domestic service. Now look.
Don't laugh - it wasn't that long ago that we were all told it would only be used for holiday routes, and never for mainline domestic service. Now look.
Mar 2, 2019, 1:54 pm
#7815
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 394
I originally imagined rouge would last a year or two then vanish, like Zip and Tango before it. To my horror that wasn't the case, as Calin and crew came to like what it did for their bonuses. What concerns me now is that rouge will ultimately wind up replacing mainline altogether on all routes.
Don't laugh - it wasn't that long ago that we were all told it would only be used for holiday routes, and never for mainline domestic service. Now look.
Don't laugh - it wasn't that long ago that we were all told it would only be used for holiday routes, and never for mainline domestic service. Now look.