Mini RTW Questions
Feb 20, 2017, 7:26 pm
#4771
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Food and drinks in UA F are closer to a solid J product and may even be slightly worse than TK J. Service generally should be decent, especially if you don't mind a somewhat informal service style. I've never dound the service on TK or LX to be that impressive.
With a date range of +/- 2 days and the willingness to connect somewhere else, I'd say your chances of finding LH F award space are decent, especially from the East Coast (EWR/JFK/IAD/BOS)
Feb 20, 2017, 9:28 pm
#4772
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I want to include Maui (OGG) in a mini RTW to asia from YYZ. The aeroplan website won't allow pretty much any routing from OGG to asia or vice versa but when i search using the united website OGG --> HNL ---> NRT comes up as a saver award. The OGG --> HNL leg is on hawaiian airlines which i don't believe is on star alliance? Would this route be able to be booked on aeroplan if i called in?
Feb 20, 2017, 9:35 pm
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I want to include Maui (OGG) in a mini RTW to asia from YYZ. The aeroplan website won't allow pretty much any routing from OGG to asia or vice versa but when i search using the united website OGG --> HNL ---> NRT comes up as a saver award. The OGG --> HNL leg is on hawaiian airlines which i don't believe is on star alliance? Would this route be able to be booked on aeroplan if i called in?
Feb 20, 2017, 9:49 pm
#4774
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This Hawaii question got me wondering....
1. ANA (NH) flies HNL to NRT and HND (even if you can't get this on Aeroplan)
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local.../honolulu.html
2. Hawaiian Airlines is an ANA partner
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ph/e/asw_co...ile/tk/ha.html
1. ANA (NH) flies HNL to NRT and HND (even if you can't get this on Aeroplan)
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local.../honolulu.html
2. Hawaiian Airlines is an ANA partner
http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ph/e/asw_co...ile/tk/ha.html
Feb 21, 2017, 7:32 am
#4775
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
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I should know the answer to this but just want to confirm...
The following should be legal correct?
YEG-YVR-SEA-TPE-BKK (Stop)
BKK-MEL (OJ)
AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
The reason for this is during the Holidays I cannot get anything from Australia to New Zealand, so figured OJ it over to NZ.
When it comes to MPM, the MPM of leg 1 YEG-BKK-MEL and leg 2 AKL-YEG must be below YEG-MEL (13921 miles) correct?
The following should be legal correct?
YEG-YVR-SEA-TPE-BKK (Stop)
BKK-MEL (OJ)
AKL-BNE-TPE-YVR-YEG
The reason for this is during the Holidays I cannot get anything from Australia to New Zealand, so figured OJ it over to NZ.
When it comes to MPM, the MPM of leg 1 YEG-BKK-MEL and leg 2 AKL-YEG must be below YEG-MEL (13921 miles) correct?
Feb 21, 2017, 7:40 am
#4776
Join Date: Mar 2016
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But why does the united search tool show it as a saver award that can be booked? I was under the impression that anything that shows up as a blue saver award on the united website is eligible for aeroplan booking.
Feb 21, 2017, 8:24 am
#4777
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UA has its own partners, like HA, or Air China (not bookable on Aeroplan), Aer Lingus, etc..
Feb 21, 2017, 12:35 pm
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Thank you for your help.
I've read trip reports but I still can't tell: would you go as far to say LX or even TK in J would be better than UA F? UA F out of an American hub vs LX/TK out of the US, that is. I've flown both LX and TK J out of their respective hubs.
I realize switching whatever I book as a placeholder to LH F will be risky to rely on since there may not be availability and that could have a domino effect. My original plan was YVR-ORD-FRA-BKK-NRT-ICN-LAX-YVR with LH F for ORD-FRA, TG F, NH F, OZ F for the tpac, and ...... UA to/from YVR. I would be flying around Asia off of Alaska J redemptions and around Eur on revenue tickets. Obviously I'd be flexible to connect thru SFO or other cities to connect onto LH F.
Am I foolish for thinking I'd be able to get a spot +/- 2 days of my preferred departure date from any departure point in the US if I check T-14?
It's a shame I got into this game well after LX F stopped being available on *A. UA J was the only international flight of my last 50 in the past two years where the flight attendant refused to lend a pen for me to do a customs card and scoffed at the idea. I can only imagine how warm their F service is...
I've read trip reports but I still can't tell: would you go as far to say LX or even TK in J would be better than UA F? UA F out of an American hub vs LX/TK out of the US, that is. I've flown both LX and TK J out of their respective hubs.
I realize switching whatever I book as a placeholder to LH F will be risky to rely on since there may not be availability and that could have a domino effect. My original plan was YVR-ORD-FRA-BKK-NRT-ICN-LAX-YVR with LH F for ORD-FRA, TG F, NH F, OZ F for the tpac, and ...... UA to/from YVR. I would be flying around Asia off of Alaska J redemptions and around Eur on revenue tickets. Obviously I'd be flexible to connect thru SFO or other cities to connect onto LH F.
Am I foolish for thinking I'd be able to get a spot +/- 2 days of my preferred departure date from any departure point in the US if I check T-14?
It's a shame I got into this game well after LX F stopped being available on *A. UA J was the only international flight of my last 50 in the past two years where the flight attendant refused to lend a pen for me to do a customs card and scoffed at the idea. I can only imagine how warm their F service is...
UA F is certainly among the less impressive F products out there, but I'd still choose it over TK J or LX J - if only for the better seat (and smaller cabin).
Food and drinks in UA F are closer to a solid J product and may even be slightly worse than TK J. Service generally should be decent, especially if you don't mind a somewhat informal service style. I've never dound the service on TK or LX to be that impressive.
With a date range of +/- 2 days and the willingness to connect somewhere else, I'd say your chances of finding LH F award space are decent, especially from the East Coast (EWR/JFK/IAD/BOS)
Food and drinks in UA F are closer to a solid J product and may even be slightly worse than TK J. Service generally should be decent, especially if you don't mind a somewhat informal service style. I've never dound the service on TK or LX to be that impressive.
With a date range of +/- 2 days and the willingness to connect somewhere else, I'd say your chances of finding LH F award space are decent, especially from the East Coast (EWR/JFK/IAD/BOS)
In terms of UA F service, I had to walk back to J to get a drink and a banana because the FA assumed all the F passengers would be sleeping, so left.
Feb 21, 2017, 1:29 pm
#4779
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Hi Everyone, please help if you ran into a similar award ticketing situation.
I was able to initially use my Aeroplan miles to ticket and confirm an itinerary: MLE - SIN - ICN - JFK, all in J.
Originally the second segment (SIN - ICN) was booked on OZ. Thursday 1/26 an SQ award flight (SIN - ICN) became available, so I called Aeroplan and had them replace the second OZ segment with the available SQ one. Aeroplan was able to do so and provide a confirmation email (with the second flight being "confirmed" to be SQ).
However over the weekend when I looked up the PNR on the Singapore airlines portal, the second segment showed only "Reserved," versus "Confirmed," as were the other segments in the itinerary (I also had another ticket booked/modified on the same itinerary using UA miles and all segments came out Confirmed on the SQ portal). I called SQ and they said this leg was NOT confirmed and AP needed to "ticket" this segment. I called AP multiple times to try to understand why the new segment was not "confirmed." They eventually came back today (31 Jan) saying that the SQ award flight was no longer available and that I needed to rebook my flight. Then I asked Aeroplan to go back to my original flights and they were able to send a confirmation email (with second segment being the same OZ flight that i was initially booked on).
But now as I look in the SQ portal, my second OZ segment is still showing Reserved, not Confirmed. And now I am also able to see the desired SQ flight award being available on the Aeroplan website!
So my questions are...
1. Is this a known Aeroplan issue that it takes longer for a modified segment to be actually "Confirmed" and ticketed? If so, how long would it usually take to ticket and confirm all segments on a modified ticket.
2. Had you run into a similar situation before? If so, how were you able to resolve it.
3. It looks like my second segment is now in a limbo- no matter which flight I choose, it'd always show as "Reserved," not confirmed on the SQ Portal. So is it a sound deduction that this ticket/PNR may have had some issue/bug that prevents the ticketing? Do I need to have Aeroplan create a new ticket/PNR with the same segments to see if it sticks?
Thank you so much for all your help here. This has been driving me bonkers over the past few days!!
I was able to initially use my Aeroplan miles to ticket and confirm an itinerary: MLE - SIN - ICN - JFK, all in J.
Originally the second segment (SIN - ICN) was booked on OZ. Thursday 1/26 an SQ award flight (SIN - ICN) became available, so I called Aeroplan and had them replace the second OZ segment with the available SQ one. Aeroplan was able to do so and provide a confirmation email (with the second flight being "confirmed" to be SQ).
However over the weekend when I looked up the PNR on the Singapore airlines portal, the second segment showed only "Reserved," versus "Confirmed," as were the other segments in the itinerary (I also had another ticket booked/modified on the same itinerary using UA miles and all segments came out Confirmed on the SQ portal). I called SQ and they said this leg was NOT confirmed and AP needed to "ticket" this segment. I called AP multiple times to try to understand why the new segment was not "confirmed." They eventually came back today (31 Jan) saying that the SQ award flight was no longer available and that I needed to rebook my flight. Then I asked Aeroplan to go back to my original flights and they were able to send a confirmation email (with second segment being the same OZ flight that i was initially booked on).
But now as I look in the SQ portal, my second OZ segment is still showing Reserved, not Confirmed. And now I am also able to see the desired SQ flight award being available on the Aeroplan website!
So my questions are...
1. Is this a known Aeroplan issue that it takes longer for a modified segment to be actually "Confirmed" and ticketed? If so, how long would it usually take to ticket and confirm all segments on a modified ticket.
2. Had you run into a similar situation before? If so, how were you able to resolve it.
3. It looks like my second segment is now in a limbo- no matter which flight I choose, it'd always show as "Reserved," not confirmed on the SQ Portal. So is it a sound deduction that this ticket/PNR may have had some issue/bug that prevents the ticketing? Do I need to have Aeroplan create a new ticket/PNR with the same segments to see if it sticks?
Thank you so much for all your help here. This has been driving me bonkers over the past few days!!
I had a similar experience recently, but mine was worse given the fact that I had no choice on the matter. I had one segment that was cancelled, so they automatically rebooked one of the legs on my trip. My original segment was replaced by a different carrier entirely. All this happening without my knowledge (no email, no text).
Anyway, I checked my booking again 5 days before my flight and I found out that I only had a RESERVED status which was then already CANCELLED. I called the partner carrier directly and they confirmed that they cancelled it because they didn't get payment for the reservation. This was already the return trip by the way. So I called Aeroplan again (long distance!!) and they finally got it sorted out. Naturally, I lost my original seat.
One good thing about this incident is that the segment showed up as class Y on my account, so full AQM and aeropesos. I even got AQD for it!
Feb 23, 2017, 2:33 pm
#4780
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NY
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Currently have an itinerary booked as follows:
JFK-TPE-BKK-CNX (OJ)
HKT-BKK-SGN-IST-TLV
TLV-ZRH-JFK
Can I add another "stopover" segment after JFK (like a EWR-LAX or something)?
JFK-TPE-BKK-CNX (OJ)
HKT-BKK-SGN-IST-TLV
TLV-ZRH-JFK
Can I add another "stopover" segment after JFK (like a EWR-LAX or something)?
Feb 23, 2017, 3:11 pm
#4781
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You can only have one stopover (not two) when you opt for an open-jaw. Plus in your case, the departure and end cities have to be the same.
Feb 23, 2017, 5:36 pm
#4782
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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Mini RTW Start and End Cities
If I were to start a Mini-RTW at YYZ, do a trip across the Atlantic or Pacific and visit three stops, can I return to a different city in North America, such as IAH or MEX, then find my own way back to YYZ? Or would that technically count as an open jaw?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Feb 23, 2017, 6:11 pm
#4783
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Finally start to look at my RTW now considering chances are pretty high I will be heading to Asia/EU for work given my job search for NA has been...... meh
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
Looking at 24 hour layover in either Munich, Zurich, Seoul or Copenhagen
If you can choose between SAS, Swiss, LF, Asiana, SAS for their Long Haul Biz product, who would you choose and why?
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
Looking at 24 hour layover in either Munich, Zurich, Seoul or Copenhagen
If you can choose between SAS, Swiss, LF, Asiana, SAS for their Long Haul Biz product, who would you choose and why?
Feb 23, 2017, 7:33 pm
#4784
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Finally start to look at my RTW now considering chances are pretty high I will be heading to Asia/EU for work given my job search for NA has been...... meh
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
Looking at 24 hour layover in either Munich, Zurich, Seoul or Copenhagen
If you can choose between SAS, Swiss, LF, Asiana, SAS for their Long Haul Biz product, who would you choose and why?
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
Looking at 24 hour layover in either Munich, Zurich, Seoul or Copenhagen
If you can choose between SAS, Swiss, LF, Asiana, SAS for their Long Haul Biz product, who would you choose and why?
Feb 23, 2017, 8:35 pm
#4785
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Finally start to look at my RTW now considering chances are pretty high I will be heading to Asia/EU for work given my job search for NA has been...... meh
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
Ideally I would have go for
YVR-CDG-PVG-YYZ-YVR but thats over MPM so doh!
Now probably looking at
YVR-YYZ-YVR 25K Y redemption
YYZ-CDG(STOP)-PVG(Turnaround)- HND(STOP)- YYZ 150K J Redemption.
Will be using IKK via SE account to book
YVR-CDGx-PVGx-FRA/MUC/CPH-YYZx-YVR
(with alayover <24h in FRA/MUC/CPH o the way back)