Mini RTW Questions
Mar 26, 2017, 3:31 am
#4846
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,494
"Suck it up in J" is a bit of an entitled position... 
j/k
J these days is really not all that bad. If you're adamant about not paying YQ then TK might be about the only option (or LX, or SN if you can find space). If you're OK paying YQ, then OS is a great airline.
But I wouldn't do F one way, J the other - that's sort of a waste of points I'd say if you only have one or two flights in F.
j/kJ these days is really not all that bad. If you're adamant about not paying YQ then TK might be about the only option (or LX, or SN if you can find space). If you're OK paying YQ, then OS is a great airline.
But I wouldn't do F one way, J the other - that's sort of a waste of points I'd say if you only have one or two flights in F.
Mar 26, 2017, 3:34 am
#4847
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,083
"Suck it up in J" is a bit of an entitled position... j/k
J these days is really not all that bad. If you're adamant about not paying YQ then TK might be about the only option (or LX, or SN if you can find space). If you're OK paying YQ, then OS is a great airline.
But I wouldn't do F one way, J the other - that's sort of a waste of points I'd say if you only have one or two flights in F.
j/kJ these days is really not all that bad. If you're adamant about not paying YQ then TK might be about the only option (or LX, or SN if you can find space). If you're OK paying YQ, then OS is a great airline.
But I wouldn't do F one way, J the other - that's sort of a waste of points I'd say if you only have one or two flights in F.
Unfortunately, I'm trying to put something like this together: YVR-MLE-CDG-YVR, so I need the stop-overs given with a RT itinerary.
How is LH J (both availability and experience)?
Mar 26, 2017, 3:42 am
#4848
Join Date: Jan 2006
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LH J is perfectly fine. It's not incredible (the new J isn't all-aisle), but food and drink are perfectly reasonable. That said, YQ will be *murder*!!! It's almost like LH is trying really hard to see how much people will pay for its average product.
Mar 26, 2017, 4:25 am
#4849
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,083
One last question for now then, what's the best city pair for LH F availability at T-14? I just did a quick check, and seems like EWR-FRA is pretty decent, any others?
Mar 26, 2017, 4:37 am
#4850
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Btw, if you want the maximum experience, book something like EWR-FRA-MUC-onwards, all on LH F, to use the FCT in FRA, and then get the Munich lounge access as well. Get a >5 hour layover in FRA if you can, as well, so you can rent a Porsche for 99 EUR for 4 hours!
Mar 26, 2017, 9:42 am
#4851
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DFW often has some decent availability.
But overall finding LH F award space has become much more difficult since many routes no longer have a F cabin.
Mar 26, 2017, 4:05 pm
#4852
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- NH is fairly frequently available. I consider this one of the best F products in Star right now.
- LH is usually available two weeks before departure, especially if you are somewhat flexible. I don't really like LH F besides the Frankfurt First Class Terminal - the in-plane experience is somewhat "okay" for an F product, in my humble view
- LX is no longer bookable by partners.
- TG is frequently available to Asia. I really, really like TG. Excellent service, good food, free massage in BKK, what else could one want!
- UA F is ... going away. Fortunately. Sadly, not the airline.
- OZ is fairly good. I don't particularly love them, but they are a solid, good F product. I'd take NH any day over OZ if I had the choice, but if that's your only choice, it's not a bad one at all.
- SQ is never bookable on partners unless there's an error. But besides the Suites seat (=bed), there's nothing special about SQ F. Really and honestly. The Krug is nice, but I'm never blown away by it as much as I am by NH, for instance.
Hope this helps!
- LH is usually available two weeks before departure, especially if you are somewhat flexible. I don't really like LH F besides the Frankfurt First Class Terminal - the in-plane experience is somewhat "okay" for an F product, in my humble view
- LX is no longer bookable by partners.
- TG is frequently available to Asia. I really, really like TG. Excellent service, good food, free massage in BKK, what else could one want!
- UA F is ... going away. Fortunately. Sadly, not the airline.
- OZ is fairly good. I don't particularly love them, but they are a solid, good F product. I'd take NH any day over OZ if I had the choice, but if that's your only choice, it's not a bad one at all.
- SQ is never bookable on partners unless there's an error. But besides the Suites seat (=bed), there's nothing special about SQ F. Really and honestly. The Krug is nice, but I'm never blown away by it as much as I am by NH, for instance.
Hope this helps!
Factoring in both ground and air:
LH
SQ
TG
NH
OZ (though this is not below NH by much for me)
LX
UA
If we only talk about in-flight experience, my list would change a bit, but not by much.
Mar 26, 2017, 4:50 pm
#4853
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Mar 26, 2017, 5:00 pm
#4854
Join Date: Jan 2016
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"Suck up in J?"
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Mar 26, 2017, 6:00 pm
#4855
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Oh, my list wasn't ranked in order of "how I rank" them - I just wrote them as they came to mind. Maybe that's a way of ranking them, but I didn't quite intend that as a order of quality - LH wouldn't have been so high on the list otherwise, and UA wouldn't have been in the middle of the list
I know you don't think UA is better than OZ and SQ
Mar 26, 2017, 11:30 pm
#4856
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,083
Side note, if going on TG F, A380 vs 747, which would be preferred? Are there significant differences?
I think I may need to get quite creative to manage an A380 flight.
Mar 26, 2017, 11:36 pm
#4857
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So based on your list of preferred carriers, NH F is still #1 for TPAC (since SQ isn't bookable through aeroplan)
Side note, if going on TG F, A380 vs 747, which would be preferred? Are there significant differences?
I think I may need to get quite creative to manage an A380 flight.
Side note, if going on TG F, A380 vs 747, which would be preferred? Are there significant differences?
I think I may need to get quite creative to manage an A380 flight.
But when I am booking, if I can get SFO-NRT-destination on NH, or SFO-LAX-ICN-destination on OZ, I'm going to take NH because it's easier. Likewise, if OZ avoids a connection, I'll take it.
I've only flown TG's old 747, and while the seats were not great, I found the ground service, in-flight service, food, and beverages to be spectacular.
My other opinion is that if you're booking a flight on points, and you can get F that works for you don't fret too much about which airline it's on.
Mar 27, 2017, 8:28 am
#4858
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
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Posts: 2,408
- NH is fairly frequently available. I consider this one of the best F products in Star right now.
- LH is usually available two weeks before departure, especially if you are somewhat flexible. I don't really like LH F besides the Frankfurt First Class Terminal - the in-plane experience is somewhat "okay" for an F product, in my humble view
- LX is no longer bookable by partners.
- TG is frequently available to Asia. I really, really like TG. Excellent service, good food, free massage in BKK, what else could one want!
- UA F is ... going away. Fortunately. Sadly, not the airline.
- OZ is fairly good. I don't particularly love them, but they are a solid, good F product. I'd take NH any day over OZ if I had the choice, but if that's your only choice, it's not a bad one at all.
- SQ is never bookable on partners unless there's an error. But besides the Suites seat (=bed), there's nothing special about SQ F. Really and honestly. The Krug is nice, but I'm never blown away by it as much as I am by NH, for instance.
Hope this helps!
- LH is usually available two weeks before departure, especially if you are somewhat flexible. I don't really like LH F besides the Frankfurt First Class Terminal - the in-plane experience is somewhat "okay" for an F product, in my humble view
- LX is no longer bookable by partners.
- TG is frequently available to Asia. I really, really like TG. Excellent service, good food, free massage in BKK, what else could one want!
- UA F is ... going away. Fortunately. Sadly, not the airline.
- OZ is fairly good. I don't particularly love them, but they are a solid, good F product. I'd take NH any day over OZ if I had the choice, but if that's your only choice, it's not a bad one at all.
- SQ is never bookable on partners unless there's an error. But besides the Suites seat (=bed), there's nothing special about SQ F. Really and honestly. The Krug is nice, but I'm never blown away by it as much as I am by NH, for instance.
Hope this helps!
Reminder, free massages in BKK are only available with departure TG boarding passes, shut-outs for an arriving TG flight.
Apr 8, 2017, 9:20 am
#4859
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 733
Maybe someone else has a better solution to this.
I want to do JFK-FRA-ICN-BKK-SYD. Problem is it is 125 miles over mpm (allowable is 15965). One solution is to fly to MEL instead (not an issue as I'm going to visit both during the stopover), which has an allowable mpm of 16669. However, BKK-MEL on TG has no first class cabin, so each way would unfortunately need to be in J. Meanwhile there is plenty of F space if flying in and out of SYD.
Another solution (to avoid flying in J to MEL) would be to change the origin. I'm flexible in positioning where I start. Based on the wiki, starting in YHZ wouldn't help me because it'll take 800 miles to get to EWR/JFK due to bad availability of a direct flight to EWR. Any (creative) suggestions of ways to perhaps make this itinerary work?
I want to do JFK-FRA-ICN-BKK-SYD. Problem is it is 125 miles over mpm (allowable is 15965). One solution is to fly to MEL instead (not an issue as I'm going to visit both during the stopover), which has an allowable mpm of 16669. However, BKK-MEL on TG has no first class cabin, so each way would unfortunately need to be in J. Meanwhile there is plenty of F space if flying in and out of SYD.
Another solution (to avoid flying in J to MEL) would be to change the origin. I'm flexible in positioning where I start. Based on the wiki, starting in YHZ wouldn't help me because it'll take 800 miles to get to EWR/JFK due to bad availability of a direct flight to EWR. Any (creative) suggestions of ways to perhaps make this itinerary work?
Apr 8, 2017, 9:53 am
#4860
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YHZ
Programs: HH Gold, MR Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 87
Maybe someone else has a better solution to this.
I want to do JFK-FRA-ICN-BKK-SYD. Problem is it is 125 miles over mpm (allowable is 15965). One solution is to fly to MEL instead (not an issue as I'm going to visit both during the stopover), which has an allowable mpm of 16669. However, BKK-MEL on TG has no first class cabin, so each way would unfortunately need to be in J. Meanwhile there is plenty of F space if flying in and out of SYD.
Another solution (to avoid flying in J to MEL) would be to change the origin. I'm flexible in positioning where I start. Based on the wiki, starting in YHZ wouldn't help me because it'll take 800 miles to get to EWR/JFK due to bad availability of a direct flight to EWR. Any (creative) suggestions of ways to perhaps make this itinerary work?
I want to do JFK-FRA-ICN-BKK-SYD. Problem is it is 125 miles over mpm (allowable is 15965). One solution is to fly to MEL instead (not an issue as I'm going to visit both during the stopover), which has an allowable mpm of 16669. However, BKK-MEL on TG has no first class cabin, so each way would unfortunately need to be in J. Meanwhile there is plenty of F space if flying in and out of SYD.
Another solution (to avoid flying in J to MEL) would be to change the origin. I'm flexible in positioning where I start. Based on the wiki, starting in YHZ wouldn't help me because it'll take 800 miles to get to EWR/JFK due to bad availability of a direct flight to EWR. Any (creative) suggestions of ways to perhaps make this itinerary work?