Mini RTW Questions
#4906
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
On a further note, if you do decide to go for a mRTW, the mutlicity tool online has its purpose. I wanted to visit Asia and Europe. I didn't plan for Hong Kong, but due to the rules involved with mRTW, I must use Hong Kong as a destination. Otherwise there's not enough miles for me to stopover in Europe. At the same time, I must be careful regarding what I use as connection from Hong Kong to Europe, otherwise I'll be over the MPM limit for my itinerary! The multi-city tool can help to determine the overall big picture.
My initial search using the mutli-city tool was
DFW - TPE
TPE - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That didn't return result. DFW - TPE didn't have enough distance.
My next search
DFW - HKG (HKG is the other city I wanted to visit in Asia 1 region)
HKG - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That works depending on the connection I use for HKG-ZRH.
Hope that helps!
#4907
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
Are you talking about FUK or ICN?
Because Domestic FUK is 10m from Hakata Station, and 15 from Tenjin. You'll have to add another 15 for the shuttle between the domestic and international terminals though.
If you're talking about ICN, there is a "City Airport Terminal" in Gangnam-gu where you can check in your bags, so you can print your BP and not have to get to the airport early to check in bags. However, the busses and shuttles aren't particularly quick, and traffic can be really bad near the bridges so keep that in mind.
Because Domestic FUK is 10m from Hakata Station, and 15 from Tenjin. You'll have to add another 15 for the shuttle between the domestic and international terminals though.
If you're talking about ICN, there is a "City Airport Terminal" in Gangnam-gu where you can check in your bags, so you can print your BP and not have to get to the airport early to check in bags. However, the busses and shuttles aren't particularly quick, and traffic can be really bad near the bridges so keep that in mind.
#4908
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 291
I looked up each segment individually to call in and book. The multi-city tool online is limited (you can only enter 3 flgihts). If that's all you need, then you can use the online tool and save yourself the 30 cad fee. My itinerary contains 11 segment so I must call.
On a further note, if you do decide to go for a mRTW, the mutlicity tool online has its purpose. I wanted to visit Asia and Europe. I didn't plan for Hong Kong, but due to the rules involved with mRTW, I must use Hong Kong as a destination. Otherwise there's not enough miles for me to stopover in Europe. At the same time, I must be careful regarding what I use as connection from Hong Kong to Europe, otherwise I'll be over the MPM limit for my itinerary! The multi-city tool can help to determine the overall big picture.
My initial search using the mutli-city tool was
DFW - TPE
TPE - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That didn't return result. DFW - TPE didn't have enough distance.
My next search
DFW - HKG (HKG is the other city I wanted to visit in Asia 1 region)
HKG - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That works depending on the connection I use for HKG-ZRH.
Hope that helps!
On a further note, if you do decide to go for a mRTW, the mutlicity tool online has its purpose. I wanted to visit Asia and Europe. I didn't plan for Hong Kong, but due to the rules involved with mRTW, I must use Hong Kong as a destination. Otherwise there's not enough miles for me to stopover in Europe. At the same time, I must be careful regarding what I use as connection from Hong Kong to Europe, otherwise I'll be over the MPM limit for my itinerary! The multi-city tool can help to determine the overall big picture.
My initial search using the mutli-city tool was
DFW - TPE
TPE - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That didn't return result. DFW - TPE didn't have enough distance.
My next search
DFW - HKG (HKG is the other city I wanted to visit in Asia 1 region)
HKG - ZRH
ZRH - DFW
That works depending on the connection I use for HKG-ZRH.
Hope that helps!
#4909
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AMEX AC CX UA AA DL
Posts: 3,008
The reason I'm asking is that the flight search is back today. I was able to search through each segment and add up the charges. While I know a complete itinerary is more complex, but I thought that the total charges won't be greater than the sum of the individual segments.
For example segments to/from Japan, HKG have no YQ.
Was doing one way searches from SIN to Europe and there is no YQ on TG.
But you bet if these segments are part of a larger itinerary YQ will apply.
#4910
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,083
I thought aeroplan awards are based on city, not airport?
#4911
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
I thought the same thing. I've read that in the booked mRTW thread; it was quite recent. Someone mentioned that when they were talking to an agent and the agent would count that as an open jaw. I was not brave enough to ask during my booking. I had to wait over an hour and the agent was getting restless after all the flights I'm telling her. This all happened during the time they took away the searching international flight segment by segment. I was just happy to burn my miles!
I may call back to change my itinerary a bit (I was told that they could change it segment by segment). If I take out DFW-YVR, I could still save 100 cad (counting the changed fee). I didn't know that flight proved to be so costly.
I may call back to change my itinerary a bit (I was told that they could change it segment by segment). If I take out DFW-YVR, I could still save 100 cad (counting the changed fee). I didn't know that flight proved to be so costly.
#4912
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,266
GMP and ICN most definitely ARE co-terminals, as are HND/NRT, and TSA/TPE.
#4913
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
Decision on Cancelling/Rebook vs Changing Award ticket
I have booked a mRTW ticket recently. Since it was my first time, I have made some mistakes. In light of that (combined with LX now being available again), I want to make some changes. I have to make changes both ways (200 cad).
1. I could cancel my ticket and paid 150 cad and start again. All the seats I wanted are still available (I'm not counting on my cancelled seat going back to inventory). I see two problems with this. I don't know when my miles will be redeposited. And if I book a new ticket, would I have to pay an additional 30 cad booking fee (which means a saving of only 20 cad)?
2. I could just cough up the 200 cad and make my changes segments by segment. I would come out about equal since I will be taking away a carrier with high YQ.
What would you guys do?
1. I could cancel my ticket and paid 150 cad and start again. All the seats I wanted are still available (I'm not counting on my cancelled seat going back to inventory). I see two problems with this. I don't know when my miles will be redeposited. And if I book a new ticket, would I have to pay an additional 30 cad booking fee (which means a saving of only 20 cad)?
2. I could just cough up the 200 cad and make my changes segments by segment. I would come out about equal since I will be taking away a carrier with high YQ.
What would you guys do?
Last edited by newbie2008; Jun 1, 2017 at 5:57 pm Reason: The title was vague
#4914
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
Programs: ACSEMM QRGold SPGLifetimePlat FairmontPlat HyattD AMEXCenturion SerenaPlat TalkBoard Founding Member
Posts: 8,963
I'd 1000% do the second one to avoid losing a segment or more.
Would be good to use a relevant thread title too...as yours is very vague.
Would be good to use a relevant thread title too...as yours is very vague.
#4915
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,735
My experience is that when you cancel an award, the miles are back in your account right away. That said, I wouldn't take the chance of cancelling first and then rebooking.
If all of the seats you want are available for booking now, and you have enough miles in your account that you could float an extra ticket, you could book the new ticket without cancelling your existing one. Then once you have confirmed your replacement, go ahead and cancel the old one. You would have to pay the $30 phone booking fee again.
If not, just pay the $200.
If all of the seats you want are available for booking now, and you have enough miles in your account that you could float an extra ticket, you could book the new ticket without cancelling your existing one. Then once you have confirmed your replacement, go ahead and cancel the old one. You would have to pay the $30 phone booking fee again.
If not, just pay the $200.
#4916
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
Thank you all for your response. I'll just change it segment by segment then to avoid risk.
#4917
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
I've been curious about this as well, so I ran some searches on ITA for your flights and got ~$538 CAD in taxes and fees. (DFW-YVR leg was $220 in YQ! ouch)
Considering your trans-ocean flights are on YQ-free carriers, I don't think the origin-destination fee model applies.
Considering your trans-ocean flights are on YQ-free carriers, I don't think the origin-destination fee model applies.
#4918
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,428
I have a question based on a real example.
YYZ-CUN one way for 2 adults and 1 child (less than 12 years). Rev ticket in Tango has all fees and taxes totalling to $270. Aeroplan ticket has taxes and fees total of $292.38. I am SE using my AE account so there should be no 'surcharges'. So how does the AE ticket have $22.38 more in fees/taxes for the exact same flight ?
YYZ-CUN one way for 2 adults and 1 child (less than 12 years). Rev ticket in Tango has all fees and taxes totalling to $270. Aeroplan ticket has taxes and fees total of $292.38. I am SE using my AE account so there should be no 'surcharges'. So how does the AE ticket have $22.38 more in fees/taxes for the exact same flight ?
#4919
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 81
I just called Aeroplan to try changing some segments on my existing mRTW. I basically encounter resistance as my initial itinerary has 2 layovers on the way from Tokyo to Hong Kong.
I wanted to change [HND-FUK-ICN] to [HND-GMP]
[ICN-HKG OZ] to [ICN-HKG BR]
But he's saying that I can't do that because I have too many segments
He went on to say the original agent did a lot of "override" and was not supposed to do that. Is this a case of HUCA?
I wanted to change [HND-FUK-ICN] to [HND-GMP]
[ICN-HKG OZ] to [ICN-HKG BR]
But he's saying that I can't do that because I have too many segments
He went on to say the original agent did a lot of "override" and was not supposed to do that. Is this a case of HUCA?
#4920
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,465
I have a question based on a real example.
YYZ-CUN one way for 2 adults and 1 child (less than 12 years). Rev ticket in Tango has all fees and taxes totalling to $270. Aeroplan ticket has taxes and fees total of $292.38. I am SE using my AE account so there should be no 'surcharges'. So how does the AE ticket have $22.38 more in fees/taxes for the exact same flight ?
YYZ-CUN one way for 2 adults and 1 child (less than 12 years). Rev ticket in Tango has all fees and taxes totalling to $270. Aeroplan ticket has taxes and fees total of $292.38. I am SE using my AE account so there should be no 'surcharges'. So how does the AE ticket have $22.38 more in fees/taxes for the exact same flight ?